2 Feb
2021
2 Feb
'21
9:19 a.m.
I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be ebaying off my
A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are up now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
2 Feb
2 Feb
10:22 a.m.
On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be ebaying off my
A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are up now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part of a camera lens,
which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the better part of 20
years.
Zane
10:48 a.m.
Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each one
in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
but it would have preserved them well :-)
C
(Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be ebaying off my
A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are up now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part of a camera lens,
which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the better part of 20
years.
Zane
1:13 p.m.
I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10 Alphas, a pro380 and two
DECMante II boxes.
bb
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each one
in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
but it would have preserved them well :-)
C
(Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>>
>> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be ebaying
off my
>> A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are up
now
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
>
> That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part of a camera
lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
>
> Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the better part of
20 years.
>
> Zane
>
>
>
1:14 p.m.
Oh, and 2 8/a boxes, but i did move out 15 Vaxes of various times and
an 8e that someone refuse to admit I gave them.
bb
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:13 PM Bob Smith <bobsmithofd at gmail.com> wrote:
I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10 Alphas, a pro380 and two
DECMante II boxes.
bb
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each one
> in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
> but it would have preserved them well :-)
>
> C
> (Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
>
> On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be
ebaying off my
> >> A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards
are up now
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
> >
> > That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part of a
camera lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
> >
> > Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the better
part of 20 years.
> >
> > Zane
> >
> >
> >
2:57 p.m.
What do I have...
Decsystem/20 CPU box+supply (blt.ai.mit.edu), pdp11/05/83/24/23+/150, 2
8L's, an 8/e, 3 RL02, RM80, RX02,TK50,2 Professional 380's. And a
Minc-11/MiniMINC.
Several Perqs, that HP 1000e thing, and a few dozen MFM disks.
A pair of Sun 386i's, Nextstation, NS Turbo, Turbo Color
Probably a lot more.
On 2/2/2021 4:13 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10 Alphas,
a pro380 and two
DECMante II boxes.
bb
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each one
> in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
> but it would have preserved them well :-)
>
> C
> (Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
>
> On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be
ebaying off my
>>> A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are
up now
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
>>
>> That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part of a camera
lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
>>
>> Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the better part
of 20 years.
>>
>> Zane
>>
>>
>>
3:12 p.m.
I think it's good to hold onto that which is realistic to support, no point
in holding hardware hostage in a rodent and moisture-vulnerable old
garage. We don't live forever.
b
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:57 PM Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
What do I have...
Decsystem/20 CPU box+supply (blt.ai.mit.edu), pdp11/05/83/24/23+/150, 2
8L's, an 8/e, 3 RL02, RM80, RX02,TK50,2 Professional 380's. And a
Minc-11/MiniMINC.
Several Perqs, that HP 1000e thing, and a few dozen MFM disks.
A pair of Sun 386i's, Nextstation, NS Turbo, Turbo Color
Probably a lot more.
On 2/2/2021 4:13 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10
Alphas, a pro380 and two
DECMante II boxes.
bb
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each one
> in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
> but it would have preserved them well :-)
>
> C
> (Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
>
> On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be
ebaying off my
>>> A-W series flip chips over the next
few days. The W's and PT08 boards
are up now
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
>>
>> That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part
of a
camera lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
>>
>> Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the
better part of 20 years.
>>
>> Zane
>>
>>
>>
3:28 p.m.
Since we're talkin' sell-off... on the off chance that anyone has a TC11 or
TC01/08 gathering dust (for something less than eBay prices), I, uh...
could use one. Along with many other people, I suppose.
- Josh
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:12 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
I think it's good to hold onto that which is
realistic to support, no point
in holding hardware hostage in a rodent and moisture-vulnerable old
garage. We don't live forever.
b
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:57 PM Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
boards
What do I have...
Decsystem/20 CPU box+supply (blt.ai.mit.edu), pdp11/05/83/24/23+/150, 2
8L's, an 8/e, 3 RL02, RM80, RX02,TK50,2 Professional 380's. And a
Minc-11/MiniMINC.
Several Perqs, that HP 1000e thing, and a few dozen MFM disks.
A pair of Sun 386i's, Nextstation, NS Turbo, Turbo Color
Probably a lot more.
On 2/2/2021 4:13 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
> I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10 Alphas, a pro380 and two
> DECMante II boxes.
> bb
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each
one
> in
lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
> but it would have preserved them well :-)
>
> C
> (Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
>
> On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so I'll be
ebaying off my
>>>> A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08
are up now
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
>>
>> That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part
of a
camera lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
>>
>> Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the
better part of 20 years.
>>
>> Zane
>>
>>
>>
3 Feb
3 Feb
6:14 a.m.
I suspect many of us are in similar situations. I have been collecting and storing
my treasures for about 35 years. I even recently moved it all into one nice climate
controlled space. (It has mostly all been in climate controlled space, but now it
is all in the same space with room to work on it.)
At this point in my life, reviewing how much time I have been able to find in the
previous years to play with my hoard, I am realizing that I have way more than I
will ever be able to enjoy. Then I consider that the others like me are also coming
to a similar conclusion and as a result there is likely lots of equipment looking
for homes other than the scrap heap.
With museums that seemed like they were funded and safe for the foreseeable
future closing with uncertain ends, I worry (just as others) that we are the only
ones who will be the custodians of these wondrous marvels of human genius.
As those who understand and care for such marvels pass, the number of people
who care also dwindle.
I've come to realize that perhaps it isn't just the theory that I might one day
be
able to retire and enjoy keeping my mind engaged with tasks of restoring old
PDP-11s to their former glory, but that the 35 years of collecting and storing
might lead to a younger generation's wonder in seeing what led to the technology
they have at present. Perhaps they don't care and all is for not...
On 2/2/21 5:28 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
Since we're talkin' sell-off... on the off
chance that anyone has a TC11 or
TC01/08 gathering dust (for something less than eBay prices), I, uh...
could use one. Along with many other people, I suppose.
- Josh
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:12 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> I think it's good to hold onto that which is realistic to support, no point
> in holding hardware hostage in a rodent and moisture-vulnerable old
> garage. We don't live forever.
> b
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:57 PM Chris Zach via cctalk <
> cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> What do I have...
>>
>> Decsystem/20 CPU box+supply (blt.ai.mit.edu), pdp11/05/83/24/23+/150, 2
>> 8L's, an 8/e, 3 RL02, RM80, RX02,TK50,2 Professional 380's. And a
>> Minc-11/MiniMINC.
>>
>> Several Perqs, that HP 1000e thing, and a few dozen MFM disks.
>>
>> A pair of Sun 386i's, Nextstation, NS Turbo, Turbo Color
>>
>> Probably a lot more.
>>
>> On 2/2/2021 4:13 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
>>> I am down to 2 vaxes and an 11, along with 10 Alphas, a pro380 and two
>>> DECMante II boxes.
>>> bb
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
>>> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>> Might be a good time: I remember my dad saying I should encase each
> one
>>>> in lucite plastic and sell them as paperweights. That was 30 years ago
>>>> but it would have preserved them well :-)
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>> (Went from 3 8/I's to 2 8/L's so progress?)
>>>>
>>>> On 2/2/2021 1:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
>> cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't have any equipment that uses them any more, so
I'll be
>> ebaying off my
>>>>>> A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and
PT08
> boards
>> are up now
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
>>>>> That makes me wonder if I shouldn?t do the same. That would be part
>> of a camera lens, which may, or may not take up less space. :-)
>>>>> Then again I?ve been saying I need to downsize my collection for the
>> better part of 20 years.
>>>>> Zane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
2 Feb
2 Feb
4:08 p.m.
I can pretty much support any of the Dec stuff, with all of the pdp11's
running now the next step is to get the 8/L working, then the 20. The
Perqs and other stuff will be re-homed or sold.
But I'm not giving things to "museums". At this point between museums
blowing up, being shut down, selling "donations" on Ebay and literally
stealing stuff I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth from so called
"museums".
CZ
4:55 p.m.
Chris said
I can pretty much support any of the Dec stuff, with
all of the pdp11's
running now the next step is to get the 8/L working, then the 20. The
Perqs and other stuff will be re-homed or sold.
But I'm not giving things to "museums". At this point between museums
blowing up, being shut down, selling "donations" on Ebay and literally
stealing stuff I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth from so called
"museums".
CZ
Fair points... I've got about 80 or so R, W, S, A flip-chips and some 18"
Negibus(?) cables
perhaps I should do something about.
And enough DEC workstation and DEC-compatible mice that I just weighed them in kg.
Cataloging them would be a good start I guess. Also some other old flip-chip backplanes
with more
modules, and a 1968(?) DEC A/D converter and so on. I've traded some stuff for
PDP-11-related items
last year, and I would prefer to swap but I've found that notion does not sit well
with some museums,
to my surprise. Offers to claim as US tax write-offs isn't of any use to me here in
Oz.
Steve.
8:33 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 12:19 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don't have any equipment that uses them any
more, so I'll be ebaying off my
A-W series flip chips over the next few days. The W's and PT08 boards are up now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647476832
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184647420812
The PT08 board set is intriguing (I have an -8/S with no TTY interface)
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