8 Jan
2004
8 Jan
'04
1:06 p.m.
I've been trying to get an RD-54 to work with an SRQD11-B Controller. I
finally figured out the the SRQD11-B wants the drive to be select to
either 1 or 2, instead of 3. I now have another, more troublesome,
problem.
The drive acts like it is selected to both 1 and 2 at the SAME TIME!.
An access to either will illuminate the drives activity light.
Everything hangs after that. The controller works fine with a Quantum
Q540 drive. So, is there some kind of Jumper or something on the RD-54
that would cause this kind of behavior?
I will probably bring the drive home this weekend and try it on an
RQDX-3 just to see if I get the same problems. Of course, I'll change
the drive select to 3 first.
9 Jan
9 Jan
4:09 p.m.
Christopher McNabb wrote:
I will probably bring the drive home this weekend and try it on an
RQDX-3 just to see if I get the same problems. Of course, I'll change
the drive select to 3 first.
OK, I brought the RD54 home and hooked it up to the RQDX3 in my
PDP-11/83. The 11/83 also did not recognize it at first. I booted
XXDP25 off of an RL02 and ran ZRQCH0.BIN to do a low level format of the
drive. That worked well and the drive now passes all tests. I'll
reconnect the drive to the SRQD11-B when I get back to work and see if
it will now recognise the drive. If so, I'll be able to put BSD211 on
it. If not, I guess I have a 2nd RD54 for my PDP-11/83, and will have
to use the RD52 in the 11/73 at work with some other (smaller) O/S.
4:36 p.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
Sorry folks... left a colocation customer unattended in our datacenter, and
lost a vlan. Greaaaaat. As you can see, we're back up. Looks like classiccmp
was down from about 5:15 too 9:15pm.
4:42 p.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
Nothing like a clumsy-ass manuevering around some racks and trip over a
cord or knocking into a piece of h/w and out pops a cable... people
need to tread lightly.
Curt
Jay West wrote:
Sorry folks... left a colocation customer unattended in
our datacenter, and
lost a vlan. Greaaaaat. As you can see, we're back up. Looks like classiccmp
was down from about 5:15 too 9:15pm.
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4:46 p.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
I called him and asked him...said that when he was configuring his server he
put in the wrong ip address. He told me what he put in - and it was the
inside interface on our core router. The HP procurve was not very happy
about that. No more unattended customers!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: classiccmp outage
Nothing like a clumsy-ass manuevering around some
racks and trip over a
cord or knocking into a piece of h/w and out pops a cable... people
need to tread lightly.
Curt
Jay West wrote:
>Sorry folks... left a colocation customer unattended in our datacenter,
and
>lost a vlan. Greaaaaat. As you can see, we're
back up. Looks like
classiccmp
was down from
about 5:15 too 9:15pm.
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5 p.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
No kidding, heck I rarely would allow another engineer unfamiliar with
one of my customers sites in the cage alone when I worked at Exodus (Now
Cable & Wireless) a few years back, just too many ways for people to
screw up and you just can't take ANY chances in a live production
environment. Man that was a great job, nothing beats the humming of
hundreds of machines, there cooling fans, the airconditioners whirling
away, your fingers turning blue after 12 hours in the datacenter,
occassionally some soul when come walking past and thats like your only
glimpse of human life for another couple of hours.... ahhhh the good old
DOT COM days....
Curt
Jay West wrote:
I called him and asked him...said that when he was
configuring his server he
put in the wrong ip address. He told me what he put in - and it was the
inside interface on our core router. The HP procurve was not very happy
about that. No more unattended customers!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: classiccmp outage
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Nothing like a clumsy-ass manuevering around some
racks and trip over a
cord or knocking into a piece of h/w and out pops a cable... people
need to tread lightly.
Curt
Jay West wrote:
>Sorry folks... left a colocation customer unattended in our datacenter,
>
>
and
>lost a vlan. Greaaaaat. As you can see,
we're back up. Looks like
>
>
classiccmp
was down
from about 5:15 too 9:15pm.
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10 Jan
10 Jan
7:11 a.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
No kidding, heck I rarely would allow another engineer
unfamiliar with
one of my customers sites in the cage alone when I worked at Exodus (Now
Cable & Wireless) a few years back, just too many ways for people to
screw up and you just can't take ANY chances in a live production
environment. Man that was a great job, nothing beats the humming of
hundreds of machines, there cooling fans, the airconditioners whirling
away, your fingers turning blue after 12 hours in the datacenter,
occassionally some soul when come walking past and thats like your only
glimpse of human life for another couple of hours.... ahhhh the good old
DOT COM days....
I miss those days every so often as well - 3 AM maintenance windows are
something you can actually get used to. Of course it would suck when
something went wrong, and you did not get to leave until everything was
fixed.
One of the neater machine rooms I was in was in North Royalton, Ohio
(ZRN, for the AOL and MCI folks). We has a few rows of our stuff, but
someone wad a fairly big cluster of VAX and Alpha systems. Someone else
had a bunch of RS/6000s, including an SP. To top it off, some oddball
network had a few racks of blinkenlights HP1000s. I never found out who
they were, and I was always tempted by the spare machine sitting on a
workbench.
On the downside, the colo boss at ZNR was a huge dick, and the only
place to eat was some senior citizen hangout diner.
The AOL machine rooms (Reston era) were also a favorite - very serious
machines, they did not fool around. At one point I extimated over 1000
(three zeroes) HP9000 Unix systems - each in its own rack. Everything
else was there as well - Sun, SGIs, IBMs, DECs, Tandems, Stratus, Auspex,
and mounds of our Cisco blue. More fibre than I have ever seen, as
well. After the big crash(es), AOL really clamped down, and no one other
than Steve Case himself could have easy access to anything beyond the
bathroom.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
9:01 a.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, William Donzelli wrote:
I miss those days every so often as well - 3 AM
maintenance windows are
I don't miss them...
something you can actually get used to. Of course it
would suck when
something went wrong, and you did not get to leave until everything was
fixed.
...and that is exactly why. The worst feeling in the world is when it's
late, you're tired, there's no place comfortable to sit and you've been
standing for hours, you want to go home, and you have no idea why the
system isn't working. Screw that.
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16 Jan
16 Jan
4:32 p.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage (grave-yard shift in the data center)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:00 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: classiccmp outage
No kidding, heck I rarely would allow another engineer unfamiliar with
one of my customers sites in the cage alone when I worked at Exodus (Now
Cable & Wireless) a few years back, just too many ways for people to
screw up and you just can't take ANY chances in a live production
environment. Man that was a great job, nothing beats the humming of
hundreds of machines, there cooling fans, the airconditioners whirling
away, your fingers turning blue after 12 hours in the datacenter,
occassionally some soul when come walking past and thats like your only
glimpse of human life for another couple of hours.... ahhhh the good old
DOT COM days....
Or, working the data center grave-yard shift (11pm to 9am.) Very quiet, very
lonely, and the only human interaction you have is when you have to wake up
one of the HVAC guys at 2:30am. Bleak. Very Bleak.
Then around 8am, with morning breath and five-o'clock shadow, you shuffle
your sorry ass to the kitchen for coffee, and you run into the perky young
hotties fresh into work. They're looking their cutest, and you're looking
your raggedy-assed and red-eyed worst. Not many dates for the grave-yard
shift.
I think I suffered hearing loss from working in that data center, also. 400+
Compaq rack servers, a couple dozen HP Superdomes, two ADIC robotic tape
libraries, and ten or so HP400s all humming loudly under the deafening roar
of the cooling fans. It was both exciting and utterly wretched.
The funny part, in a sad kind of way, was that the Data Center was
supposedly haunted by an unfriendly ghost. Your mind can start to play
tricks on you at two in the morning. Did you just see a shadow dart behind
the far Superdome? Is that a voice that you keep hearing underneath the
noise of the data center? Why is the hair on your neck suddenly standing up?
Why did the broom just fall over? Yes. The grave-yard shift in a haunted
data center was not much fun for me, but at least I couldn't hear the foot
steps of the ghosts creeping up behind me, and that's a good thing.
Otherwise, I would have had to face the morning beauties with bad breath AND
soiled underpants.
17 Jan
17 Jan
6:33 a.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage (grave-yard shift in the data center)
You too, huh??? Yes, I noticee when going into the break room I would
spend about 2-3 minutes defrosting and getting the humming and ringing out
of my ears before I acclimated myself back to a "normal" environment :-)
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)comcast.net>
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:32 PM
Subject: RE: classiccmp outage (grave-yard shift in the data center)
very
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of
Curt Vendel
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:00 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: classiccmp outage
No kidding, heck I rarely would allow another engineer unfamiliar with
one of my customers sites in the cage alone when I worked at Exodus (Now
Cable & Wireless) a few years back, just too many ways for people to
screw up and you just can't take ANY chances in a live production
environment. Man that was a great job, nothing beats the humming of
hundreds of machines, there cooling fans, the airconditioners whirling
away, your fingers turning blue after 12 hours in the datacenter,
occassionally some soul when come walking past and thats like your only
glimpse of human life for another couple of hours.... ahhhh the good old
DOT COM days....
Or, working the data center grave-yard shift (11pm to 9am.) Very quiet, lonely, and the only human interaction you have is
when you have to wake
up
one of the HVAC guys at 2:30am. Bleak. Very Bleak.
Then around 8am, with morning breath and five-o'clock shadow, you shuffle
your sorry ass to the kitchen for coffee, and you run into the perky young
hotties fresh into work. They're looking their cutest, and you're looking
your raggedy-assed and red-eyed worst. Not many dates for the grave-yard
shift.
I think I suffered hearing loss from working in that data center, also.
400+
Compaq rack servers, a couple dozen HP Superdomes, two
ADIC robotic tape
libraries, and ten or so HP400s all humming loudly under the deafening
roar
of the cooling fans. It was both exciting and utterly
wretched.
The funny part, in a sad kind of way, was that the Data Center was
supposedly haunted by an unfriendly ghost. Your mind can start to play
tricks on you at two in the morning. Did you just see a shadow dart behind
the far Superdome? Is that a voice that you keep hearing underneath the
noise of the data center? Why is the hair on your neck suddenly standing
up?
Why did the broom just fall over? Yes. The grave-yard
shift in a haunted
data center was not much fun for me, but at least I couldn't hear the foot
steps of the ghosts creeping up behind me, and that's a good thing.
Otherwise, I would have had to face the morning beauties with bad breath
AND
soiled underpants.
7:08 a.m.
New subject: classiccmp outage (grave-yard shift in the data center)
LOL
You think that's bad? Try doing security. Patrol was bad enough - the
drunks are scarier than ghosts when coming at you at 60+ mph the
wrong way on the Interstate - but there is more than enough ghosts
out there to keep you on your toes! There were several buildings that
I avoided whenever possible - I'm sure they were haunted. OK, kevlar
and a gun makes you feel a little better when approaching a drunk
bum... But how is it going to help against a ghost? A Glock can only
do so much.
OT: Hey, I finally got ircd running on my iMac! Compiling Bahamut is
a PITA, and strangely the 1.6 RC3 beta worked and the 1.something
release didn't. Go figure. Now to figure out just why I did all of
this...
The funny part, in a sad kind of way, was that the Data
Center was
supposedly haunted by an unfriendly ghost. Your mind can start to play
tricks on you at two in the morning. Did you just see a shadow dart behind
the far Superdome? Is that a voice that you keep hearing underneath the
noise of the data center? Why is the hair on your neck suddenly standing up?
Why did the broom just fall over? Yes. The grave-yard shift in a haunted
data center was not much fun for me, but at least I couldn't hear the foot
steps of the ghosts creeping up behind me, and that's a good thing.
Otherwise, I would have had to face the morning beauties with bad breath AND
soiled underpants.
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