.smi is supposed to go with bunch of .part files. Put them on mac emulator like basilisk II or on paste them on mac formatted external hd attached to pc via HVF explorer (raw data fork, please), yank it, reattach the hd to mac, and double click on one of them. It will self assemble and plop itself in ramdrive, copy it to a new folder. All correct. Re-init the hd, if you have a non-apple hd, hack the HD SC 7.5.3 w/ regedit, and have a go at it. Easy as pie, only one hex byte to fix. All of this I found them on google.com if I have problem trying to locate files on apple.com's. Cheers, Wizard

This is reason I suggested starting building up a OS on external drive via basilisk II emulator. You can download bare system boot disk image and rawrite (Linux packages or linux download has it) it to a blank 1.44MB disk and load it with a getrom that came with basilisk II package via the HVF explorer. Boot up that diskette, run getrom to pull rom data off the SE/30 onto that disk, transfer it to basilisk II on your peecee, run basilisk and with new OS 7.0.1 or 6.0.8 (both free) copied over to hard drive HFS image for that basilisk II emulator. Finally create a external HD w/ good OS on it. The rest of it is easy, point and click. The trick is that mac internal HD given a low number ID while that external bootable HD given a higher ID. The Mac searches for bootable drive starting with ID 6 to 0, the system host being ID 7. When it finds the bootable drive on the scsi chain even you have more than 3 bootable HD drives, it's the first drive with highest ID number found on that chain and boots from that. That's how I found out when I hooked two bootable HDs to mac. This way, you can bypass the SE/30 OS on that internal hd and deal with that. I was like that with Mac but it was easier because I already worked with peecees, naturally follows through despite that Mac is different but much simpler and easier than winblows or even PDP from what I see on 'net and on that list! Cheers, Wizard

Definitely do-able for 7.5.3. I don't know about 7.0 or 7.1. System 6 is not that large and would probably not be worth the effort. In my case I have a real retail box of 7.1 so I just do it by hand :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- What use is magic if it can't save a unicorn? -- Beagle, "The Last Unicorn"

The biggest difference this Basilisk II is freeware where other emulators you talked about ( saw them ) are payware. That where basilisk II and file, expander utilities comes in for *that* especially if a Mac has no hd or erased or locked shut. Everything you can do is done on peecee and get mac going by any methods like appleshare, appletalk, ethernetalk, build up new bootable scsi drive attached to your peecee scsi controller, even it supports ide/scsi cdrom, can read/write 1.44MB Mac format disks. The expanders is written for peecee too! Oh yes, good pc software burners supports HFS format like Nero, which means you can build an CD even make it bootable. All is documented on 'net. This reason I used this was to transfer the files I found off the 'net via my peecee attached. Then cut out the DSL connection manager, release all IPs, hook the TP wire both mac and pc together, fire up that basilisk II. Then play away with that on transfer/install/other uses. In short, Anything you can do with a working Mac is no different on Basilisk *except* 400K/800K, get that mac going first. Oh yes, you can plop down a translator printer driver (freeware) to drive any pc printers. Oh yes, you can play with it with different Mac "models" like IIfx, LCIII, C610, 660 AV etc all by the GUI configurator util and even grant any different configurations on ports, 'net stuff, etc even adjust ram size. Getting ROM off mac w/ unbootable HD is no problem, just download a bootable image and rawrite it to a spare 1.44MB disk, load it with getrom program via HVF explorer. Then use this disk to boot up a "dead" mac and use HVF E. again to extract that rom to pc to get basilisk II going. Cheers, Wizard

----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy D'Augustine" <azog(a)azog.org> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Mac SE/30 the guess I haven't really been following this thread, but here are a few thoughts: Another option would be to shelve the machine until you come across some original OS disks, for System 6.x or 7.x. I see them fairly often at thrifts and surplus sales. Then you can boot from a floppy, wipe the HD, and do a clean install. Or if the password program has locked the HD at a low level, replace the old HD with another 3.5" SCSI HD; 40-80 MB SCSI drives are a dime-a-dozen these days. Then you can start over, and join the wonderful world of Macintosh. They are fun machines, really. Of course, Amigas are _more_ fun, but that's just my personal prejudice talking ;v) Cheers, Mark.

Funny... all the DEC stuff that I used to care for required bootstrap instructions before *they'd* run... Mac OS is the same way. Needs enough of a system to know that it's really a computer and not just a lump of plastic and silicon. ;o) Contact me off list and I'll get you a startup diskette. Jim

I was ranting :P There's a point where the fun-factor hits zero, and pretty much hit it for this particular item... anyone in NJ near New Providence want this? Trade for DEC stuff :) I pulled the drive out, not because I want it or anything, but out of respect for what may still be on it, because of the junk pile where I found it.

Not a big deal, I get systems all the time that I can't do a stinkin thing with. Just pass it on to somebody else. 10 minutes with a handfull of the correct floppies and your system would be running just fine. A password locked system isn't exactly rare, and at least yours has a simple solution, the password on my Grid laptops apparently has me totally screwed. Two suggestions; Give or sell the system to a mac person. Anybody with a working mac should have no trouble quickly making the needed floppies and getting the little bugger fully operational again. If somebody is local to you maybe they would be willing to do the quick fix for you. Get somebody to make you a set of floppies and snail mail them to you, or email them in a format that works with that PC disc program. People sell sets of system software on eBay all the time, and I see many people sending sets of floppies for nothing in the various mac forums. ************ The set of discs you need are: About a 5 floppy set of OS 7.0, with a extra copy of the "Disk Tools" floppy that has had SilverLining or some other 3rd party drive formatting software installed on it. You would boot from the silverlining floppy and update the drivers on the hard drive. Hopefully the hard drive could then be mounted and you might be able to save any usefull content, otherwise you would need to format with silverlining, then install the OS software off the floppy set and start looking for software on the net.

When I was in Junior high, the computer lab was filled with Mac Classics. Each Mac had FoolProof installed on it, which I believe is the same sort of idiotware. I was pretty proud of myself for figuring out that I could use ResEdit to change FoolProof's file type string from INIT to TINI so FoolProof wouldn't load. Alas, it did not work out as a demonstration to the school of the software's uselessness; I told the wrong person and he started deleting things he shouldn't have... -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)ou.edu