28 May
2016
28 May
'16
5:15 p.m.
Hey folks,
I recently picked up an AT&T 5620 terminal, the WE32K version of the
Blit, and I've been tracking down software to run on my 3B2.
It looks like there are two separate packages which provide the
'layers' windowing system:
1. A package named "AT&T Windowing Utilities", on one floppy disk.
2. A package named "DMD Core Utilities 2.0", on a set of three floppy
disks.
The DMD Core Utilities set comes with a lot of demos and source code.
It installs 'layers' as /usr/dmd/bin/layers.
The one-disk AT&T Windowing Utilities has no demos, and installs
'layers' as /usr/bin/layers.
Can anyone elaborate on the difference between these two? Are
they both appropriate to use with the 5620, and should I favor
the DMD Core Utilities over the AT&T Windowing Utilities? Or
are they both needed?
Confused and lacking documentation,
-Seth
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Seth Morabito
seth at loomcom.com
28 May
28 May
10:15 p.m.
On 5/28/16 2:15 PM, Seth Morabito wrote:
Hey folks,
I recently picked up an AT&T 5620 terminal, the WE32K version of the
Blit, and I've been tracking down software to run on my 3B2.
It looks like there are two separate packages which provide the
'layers' windowing system:
1. A package named "AT&T Windowing Utilities", on one floppy disk.
2. A package named "DMD Core Utilities 2.0", on a set of three floppy
disks.
The DMD Core Utilities set comes with a lot of demos and source code.
It installs 'layers' as /usr/dmd/bin/layers.
The one-disk AT&T Windowing Utilities has no demos, and installs
'layers' as /usr/bin/layers.
Can anyone elaborate on the difference between these two? Are
they both appropriate to use with the 5620, and should I favor
the DMD Core Utilities over the AT&T Windowing Utilities? Or
are they both needed?
Confused and lacking documentation,
-Seth
It's been a little while, and my 3B2's not currently powered up, but
here's what I remember:
You only need one of the two of #1 and #2, but having both doesn't
hurt. The DMD Core Utilities is newer and has more fun stuff, and I
assume the kernel driver is more up-to-date. They're both appropriate
for the 5620.
I also have a set of Application and Font disks that go with the Core
disk set you have. I've put all the Blit stuff I've managed to track
down at:
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/blit/software
(If you happen to have anything I don't have there, let me know...)
- Josh
29 May
29 May
11:18 a.m.
"Shattered" has been working on this. I assume you know about his SIMH
simulator
and how he's getting frustrated with nothing being available.
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=105737&a…
On 5/28/16 2:15 PM, Seth Morabito wrote:
Hey folks,
I recently picked up an AT&T 5620 terminal, the WE32K version of the
Blit, and I've been tracking down software to run on my 3B2.
It looks like there are two separate packages which provide the
'layers' windowing system:
1. A package named "AT&T Windowing Utilities", on one floppy disk.
2. A package named "DMD Core Utilities 2.0", on a set of three floppy
disks.
The DMD Core Utilities set comes with a lot of demos and source code.
It installs 'layers' as /usr/dmd/bin/layers.
The one-disk AT&T Windowing Utilities has no demos, and installs
'layers' as /usr/bin/layers.
Can anyone elaborate on the difference between these two? Are
they both appropriate to use with the 5620, and should I favor
the DMD Core Utilities over the AT&T Windowing Utilities? Or
are they both needed?
Confused and lacking documentation,
-Seth
4:45 p.m.
* On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 08:18:13AM -0700, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
"Shattered" has been working on this. I
assume you know about his SIMH simulator
and how he's getting frustrated with nothing being available.
Absolutely, he's been contributing patches back to my 3B2 simulator project.
His work is very impressive, I hope we can figure out how to get the 3B2
simulator working in a state where we can actually run layers on it.
-Seth
4:44 p.m.
If I may follow up to my own post here, I've done some experiments,
and made some discoveries.
I first installed "DMD Core Utilities 2.0". The demo programs all work
beautifully in stand-alone mode (not running under Layers). But when
I try to fire up /usr/dmd/bin/layers, the 3B2 crashes _hard_. It does
not like the version of 'layers' installed by DMD Core.
So, I installed "AT&T Windowing Utilities" from SVR3.1, and confirmed
that both of them can live together side-by-side, since they write
their files to different locations. I was able to run /usr/bin/layers
without any problem. All of the programs, utilities, and demos
installed by "DMD Core Utilities 2.0" function fine under the version
of layers installed by "AT&T Windowing Utilities".
See: http://imgur.com/QlNOIBf
So, that's my current setup. I run /usr/bin/layers, and then run the
apps from /usr/dmd/bin
-Seth
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