11 Jun
2009
11 Jun
'09
4:09 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
There are things I like about AIX, but I have a hard time considering it to
be UNIX, and *I DO NOT LIKE* IBM's attitude towards support of tape drives.
First rule of administering AIX:
This Is Not UNIX. Deal with it.
Doc
11 Jun
11 Jun
6:27 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Doc wrote:
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I think that was basically my point.
Zane
There are things I like about AIX, but I have a hard time considering it to
be UNIX, and *I DO NOT LIKE* IBM's attitude towards support of tape drives.
First rule of administering AIX:
This Is Not UNIX. Deal with it.
9:38 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Doc wrote:
I was agreeing. :)
Seriously, after teaching introductory AIX Admin for 10 years, I'd
call that the most common AIX showstopper. A LOT of UNIX people just
can't handle dtterm running on Some Other System.
The flipside is that with all its weirdness, AIX is the most
intuitive UNIX(tm) out there. Once you wrap your head around ODM and
the management tools' syntax, 2 seconds thought will get you to the man
page for a tool you need and never saw before, and 2 minutes in the man
page will get you running. "mk<mumble>", "ch<mumble>",
"rm<mumble>",
"ls<mumble>", all with consistent syntax.
Pretty good for an x86 fanboy, huh? :)
Doc
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I think that was basically my point.
There are things I like about AIX, but I have a hard time considering
it to be UNIX, and *I DO NOT LIKE* IBM's attitude towards support of
tape drives.
First rule of administering AIX:
This Is Not UNIX. Deal with it. 
9:54 p.m.
On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Doc wrote:
I think that was basically my point.
I was agreeing. :)
Seriously, after teaching introductory AIX Admin for 10 years,
I'd call that the most common AIX showstopper. A LOT of UNIX
people just can't handle dtterm running on Some Other System.
The flipside is that with all its weirdness, AIX is the most
intuitive UNIX(tm) out there. Once you wrap your head around ODM
and the management tools' syntax, 2 seconds thought will get you to
the man page for a tool you need and never saw before, and 2
minutes in the man page will get you running. "mk<mumble>",
"ch<mumble>", "rm<mumble>", "ls<mumble>",
all with consistent syntax.
Nicely put!
There are
things I like about AIX, but I have a hard time
considering it to be UNIX, and *I DO NOT LIKE* IBM's attitude
towards support of tape drives.
First rule of administering AIX:
This Is Not UNIX. Deal with it. Pretty good for an x86 fanboy, huh? :)
I'm impressed. You're the most knowledgeably x86 fanboy I've ever
known. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
9:59 p.m.
The flipside is that with all its weirdness, AIX
is the most
intuitive UNIX(tm) out there. Once you wrap your head around ODM and
the management tools' syntax, 2 seconds thought will get you to the man
page for a tool you need and never saw before, and 2 minutes in the man
page will get you running. "mk<mumble>", "ch<mumble>",
"rm<mumble>",
"ls<mumble>", all with consistent syntax.
I find myself reflexively typing lsattr on my OS X machine now and then.
I suspect it is a disease.
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10:54 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
No, it's an omission on Apple's part.
Doc
The
flipside is that with all its weirdness, AIX is the most
intuitive UNIX(tm) out there. Once you wrap your head around ODM and
the management tools' syntax, 2 seconds thought will get you to the man
page for a tool you need and never saw before, and 2 minutes in the man
page will get you running. "mk<mumble>", "ch<mumble>",
"rm<mumble>",
"ls<mumble>", all with consistent syntax.
I find myself reflexively typing lsattr on my OS X machine now and then.
I suspect it is a disease. 
10:10 p.m.
Hey Doc, what's going on with your Vaxen BTW ?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:38:29 -0500
From: doc at vaxen.net
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: UNIX V7
Zane H. Healy wrote:
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Doc wrote:
I was agreeing. :)
Seriously, after teaching introductory AIX Admin for 10 years, I'd
call that the most common AIX showstopper. A LOT of UNIX people just
can't handle dtterm running on Some Other System.
The flipside is that with all its weirdness, AIX is the most
intuitive UNIX(tm) out there. Once you wrap your head around ODM and
the management tools' syntax, 2 seconds thought will get you to the man
page for a tool you need and never saw before, and 2 minutes in the man
page will get you running. "mk<mumble>", "ch<mumble>",
"rm<mumble>",
"ls<mumble>", all with consistent syntax.
Pretty good for an x86 fanboy, huh? :)
Doc
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I think that was basically my point.
There are things I like about AIX, but I have a hard time considering
it to be UNIX, and *I DO NOT LIKE* IBM's attitude towards support of
tape drives.
First rule of administering AIX:
This Is Not UNIX. Deal with it.
12 Jun
12 Jun
10:12 a.m.
New subject: Clearance Sale News; was Re: UNIX V7
Dan Gahlinger wrote:
Hey Doc, what's going on with your Vaxen BTW ?
It's sitting comfortably in my garage. :)
The short version is "my wife's in New England taking care of her
sick mom, and I'm suddenly managing 2 cats, my day job, and a huge
spring cleaning project I can't really back out of." Things are moving
slowly.
I got a lot more responses on all of it than I expected, and more
than I have hardware to meet. I'm currently getting a detailed
inventory and trying to figure out the best way to draw straws. I
suspect that the most even-handed way will be Erik Klein's auction page.
http://marketplace.vintage-computer.com
I never expected this dispersal of toys to be a speedy process, nor
claimed it would be. All I can promise is that if I name a price, it's
a binding offer, and if I tell someone we have a deal, I'll ship as soon
as humanly possible.
Doc
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