--- Mzthompson(a)aol.com wrote: No kidding. I think I've seen three Qbus grant cards in my life. OTOH, Unibus grant cards are plentiful. We used to ship one with every COMBOARD (so you could pull our board out and still use your machine if you had to send it back for service or if DEC wouldn't fix your machine with a non-DEC board installed). One of these days, I need to scan the "Grantasaurus Rex" - the first NPR grant card for the Unibus. Much cooler than the standard DEC green-handled card. If by some chance anyone out there needs NPR (dual-height) Unibus Grant cards, let me know. I have plenty, new in the bag (they cost us about $18 each, way back when). These have no plastic handles - there's a cutout near the top for convenient extraction. Probably ought to scan these too, just cause they are not a run-of-the-mill card. Wish we'd had enough foresight to add a couple more pins to the design to make them convertible from Unibus to Qbus (move the jumpers and... voila...) Anyone could _make_ some functional Qbus grant cards, but given how large they would be, even a double-sided card costs a few dollars, just to remove that much copper from the blank. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/