10 Feb
2010
10 Feb
'10
4:57 p.m.
*************Original Message:
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:36:01 -0500
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
Subject: Re: Selling Calcomp 565 plotter
<snippage>
I work at home, and one very large room in my house is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
There's more behind where I was standing when I took the picture,
but you get the idea.
<more snippage>
-Dave
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
************Reply:
Is that a prayer rug on the floor? Or just there to mop up spilled bits?
m
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10 Feb
10 Feb
4:59 p.m.
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
? I work at home, and one very large room in my house is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
? http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
Nice DEC wall!
-ethan
5:07 p.m.
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Thanks! It's a little different now, as that picture was taken
some time ago. I'll take some new pictures soon.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I work at
home, and one very large room in my house is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
Nice DEC wall! 
6:01 p.m.
I work at home, and one very large room in my house is
my office. An
entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
Having contended with routine 600V FPL switching spikes (they even
admitted to it) and minicomputers at a customer site once upon a time,
I'm curious -- what do you do for power conditioning? Any issues?
De
6:09 p.m.
On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
All of my modern hardware runs from very well-protected UPSen and
a big whole-house MOV. My classic stuff stays unplugged unless I'm
actively using it.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I work at
home, and one very large room in my house is my office. An
entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
Having contended with routine 600V FPL switching spikes (they even
admitted to it) and minicomputers at a customer site once upon a time,
I'm curious -- what do you do for power conditioning? Any issues?
5:06 p.m.
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:57 PM, M H Stein wrote:
I work at home, and one very large room in my house
is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
There's more behind where I was standing when I took the picture,
but you get the idea.
************Reply:
Is that a prayer rug on the floor? Or just there to mop up spilled
bits?
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be pressed into use for either
application. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
5:24 p.m.
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:57 PM, M H Stein wrote:
> I work at home, and one very large room in my house is my office.
> An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
> racks:
>
> http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
>
*wistful sigh*
g.
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5:26 p.m.
New subject: Dave's walls
Dave McGuire wrote:
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:57 PM, M H Stein wrote:
DEC -- HOME COMPUTER WALLS FLOORS AND ROOF MADE FROM PDP COMPONENTS
AND RACKS: RUG OPTIONAL
I work at home, and one very large room in my
house is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
There's more behind where I was standing when I took the picture,
but you get the idea.
************Reply:
Is that a prayer rug on the floor? Or just there to mop up spilled bits?
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be pressed into use for either
application. ;)
-Dave 
6:10 p.m.
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:57 PM, M H Stein wrote:
For worshipping Bastet?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
I work at home, and one very large room in my
house is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
There's more behind where I was standing when I took the picture,
but you get the idea.
************Reply:
Is that a prayer rug on the floor? Or just there to mop up spilled bits?
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be pressed into use for either
application. ;)
6:16 p.m.
On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:
For worshipping Bastet?
*meow*
But don't laugh, one of my internal hostnames (a big Sun) is
bastet. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I work at home, and one very large room in my house
is my office.
An entire wall of my office, and most of another wall, is a row of
racks:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/wall-o-pdp.jpg
There's more behind where I was standing when I took the picture,
but you get the idea.
************Reply:
Is that a prayer rug on the floor? Or just there to mop up
spilled bits?
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be pressed into use for either
application. ;) 
7:16 p.m.
New subject: Hostnames and machine names (was Re: Dave's walls)
Dave McGuire wrote:
On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:10 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Nice.. I have yet to find a religion that worships a chinchilla god, though.
Little known fact about me: I have four pet chinchillas (two male kits,
one male adult, one female adult), and have bred them in the past -- I'm
probably more a dog/cat lover than a chinchilla lover, but that doesn't
stop them being damn fun to play with... though they're less fun when
they escape and have to be recaptured!
Photos are on flickr if anyone's interested (www.flickr.com/philpem).
Hostnames on my LAN are pretty standard..
- wolf: Firewall
- cheetah: Desktop PC (this hostname follows my current fastest PC)
- cougar: Eee PC netbook
- stargate: ADSL modem / Ethernet bridge
- pandora: Brother's Windows 7 PC. (*spit*). The name is
(according to him) from the planet in the movie "Avatar". Although I'd
like to think it's more because installing Win7 on the thing was like
opening Pandora's Box. "You have no idea of the terror you hath
wrought..." and all that.
- wreckgar: Old K6-III box with a broken CMOS chip (won't store
settings even with a fresh battery). Guess where the name comes from.
After that things get a lot more plain...
- wireless: WLAN access point.
- laserprint: Whadd'ya know, a laser printer. (Kyocera FS-C5200dn)
- mum-laptop: Take a wild guess.
- dad-laptop: Take an even wilder guess.
My webhosting server is called Daedalus, after the warship in Stargate
SG-1. Previously I've been root on amun, serenity and executor, but
those were all servers owned by a friend. I named "serenity" (after the
ship in the TV series Firefly and in hope that it would have less
hardware issues than amun and executor); the other two were named by the
aforementioned friend.
I do know someone who named his servers after curse words. Two DNS
servers: "f*ck" and "sh*t", an email server called
"bullsh*t" and a web
server called "jacksh*t". He was a strange guy...
And then there was the guy who called a server "qwertyuiop". His reason:
"well it's easy to remember, and even easier to type!"
Didn't quite work out when his DNS server fell over and he had to
remember the IP address :)
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
For worshipping Bastet?
*meow*
But don't laugh, one of my internal hostnames (a big Sun) is bastet. ;) 
11 Feb
11 Feb
1:52 p.m.
New subject: Hostnames and machine names (was Re: Dave's walls)
Philip Pemberton wrote:
Nice.. I have yet to find a religion that worships a
chinchilla god,
though.
Too bad you don't have pet squids, otherwise that would have been
easy... Ia Ia Cthulhu. ;)
opening Pandora's Box. "You have no idea of
the terror you hath
wrought..." and all that.
Even better fitting since the name means adored by
everyone - well, not
everyone, but the public doesn't know any better, and woe to them when
the plagues are unleashed.
I do know someone who named his servers after curse words. Two DNS
servers: "f*ck" and "sh*t", an email server called
"bullsh*t" and a
web server called "jacksh*t". He was a strange guy...
I once named an
openbsd firewall I created for the office sh!+stains -
because of the really crappy machine they gave me to install it on.
Worked just fine. :-)
Typically I name things after cryptographic or cold war codename related
names. sturgeon, tunny, venona, umbra, engima, sunstreak, silkworth,
waihopai, pinegap, etc.
One place I worked at named things out of Dr. Seuss. "Ooops! Sneetch
died." (there were two of them, yes, one had a star, yes, it was a cluster.)
Another after Tolkien characters.
Currently the trend is to name things by where and what they are. i.e.
ny-ux-mq01.
Another scheme was based on the nearest airport, the client's name, and
the OS.. so jfkxxxsapp01 would be a box at a data center near JFK
airport, for client xxx, s=solaris, and it was an app server. :)
6:32 p.m.
New subject: Hostnames and machine names (was Re: Dave's walls)
It was thus said that the Great Ray Arachelian once stated:
Philip Pemberton wrote:
I remember calling one of our servers "pain," since it was. Also, a friend
of mine named one of his machines "kwalitee" because, you know, quality with
a K and all that.
Right now, we tend to name physical machines after our pets, and virtual
machines after cities. I don't think they've forgiven me for naming one of
them "truth-or-consequences" (New Mexico).
-spc (At least I didn't name it
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch)
Nice.. I have yet to find a religion that
worships a chinchilla god,
though.
Too bad you don't have pet squids, otherwise that would have been
easy... Ia Ia Cthulhu. ;)
opening Pandora's Box. "You have no idea
of the terror you hath
wrought..." and all that.
Even better fitting since the name means adored by
everyone - well, not
everyone, but the public doesn't know any better, and woe to them when
the plagues are unleashed.
I do know someone who named his servers after curse words. Two DNS
servers: "f*ck" and "sh*t", an email server called
"bullsh*t" and a
web server called "jacksh*t". He was a strange guy...
I once named an
openbsd firewall I created for the office sh!+stains -
because of the really crappy machine they gave me to install it on.
Worked just fine. :-) 
11:48 p.m.
New subject: Hostnames and machine names (was Re: Dave's walls)
Right now, we tend to name physical machines after
our pets, and virtual
machines after cities. I don't think they've forgiven me for naming one of
them "truth-or-consequences" (New Mexico).
servers: Scandinavian cities
stockholm (AIX ANS 500), helsinki (NetBSD PM 7300), oslo (PM G4), reykjavik
(Solbourne), thule (NetBSD IIci), sondrestrom (AMOS Alpha Micro),
godthaab (NetBSD Q605), uppsala (staging for the p720)
Don't ask how that got started.
clients: someone important in their development
Figure out which are which (grouped ones are similar)
bryan, bruce, andy, jonathan
gordon, alex, nathan
bil
jean
laptops and portables: dogs (except gordon for historical reasons)
Benji (PB 1400), rover (SX-64) [uses von and hedley on the network],
Rin Tin Tin (PB 540c), barkley (iBook G3), underdog (iBook G4),
atomicdog (PB G4)
Oh, and guess what bigbunny is.
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3:50 p.m.
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be pressed
into use for either
application. ;)
What is it about classic computer people and cats? Cats have this habit
of curling up asleep on top of service manuals, and demanding food with
menaces when you're in the middle of solving a complex problem. On the
other hand, I wouldn't swap my cat for anything ;-)
-tony
4:27 p.m.
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
Right there with you. We have three, and a fourth (mostly) lives
on the lanai. Cats rule, dogs drool. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
It's a
cat rug, but it can easily be pressed into use for either
application. ;)
What is it about classic computer people and cats? Cats have this
habit
of curling up asleep on top of service manuals, and demanding food
with
menaces when you're in the middle of solving a complex problem. On the
other hand, I wouldn't swap my cat for anything ;-) 
4:29 p.m.
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens Tony Duell
Verzonden: donderdag 11 februari 2010 21:50
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: Dave's walls (was: Selling Calcomp 565 plotter)
Ours is keeping the house free of mice (the ones that eat things).
After he bites the head of, he'll bring the remainings to us to show how
good he is in hunting mice. It is a don't touch cat for strangers, we have a
sign 'cat bites'.
I love him ;-) He's red and is having the same bad attitude as Garfield,
that's why we named him Spinner.
-Rik
It's a cat rug, but it can easily be
pressed into use for either
application. ;)
What is it about classic computer people and cats? Cats have
this habit of curling up asleep on top of service manuals,
and demanding food with menaces when you're in the middle of
solving a complex problem. On the other hand, I wouldn't swap
my cat for anything ;-)
-tony
5 p.m.
What is it
about classic computer people and cats? Cats have
this habit of curling up asleep on top of service manuals,
and demanding food with menaces when you're in the middle of
solving a complex problem. On the other hand, I wouldn't swap
my cat for anything ;-)
-tony
Ours is keeping the house free of mice (the ones that eat things). 
5:43 p.m.
> > What is it about classic computer people and
cats?
We're brighter!
> People who own a cat are more likely to have a
university degree than those with a pet dog, a study by Bristol University suggests.
<<
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8501042.stm
6:03 p.m.
On 11 Feb 2010 at 22:43, Rob wrote:
Not necessarily--you're probably a city dweller with limited time and
space--or you're female:
"Of those surveyed, dog-lovers were more likely to be male, living in
rural areas and under the age of 55. "
I've had cats and dogs, some at the same time. I'll take dogs any
day.
--Chuck
> > What
is it about classic computer people and cats?
We're brighter!
> People who own a cat are more likely to have
a university degree
> than those with a pet dog, a study by Bristol University suggests.
> <<
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8501042.stm
9:05 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I've had cats and dogs, some at the same time.
I'll take dogs any
day.
If the cat happens to have the personality that makes it sit on your lap
and purr, then I'd go with the cat.
Similarly, as long as the dog is reasonably quiet (typically bigger
dogs) and not a clumsy nutcase (as in, doesn't run round the house
actively trying to break things -- seen that on too many occasions) then
I'd go with the dog.
But I wouldn't trade my little "colony" of chinchillas for anything.
They're just too much fun to watch (especially the little 'uns!) :)
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
9:21 p.m.
On 12 Feb 2010 at 2:05, Philip Pemberton wrote:
Similarly, as long as the dog is reasonably quiet
(typically bigger
dogs) and not a clumsy nutcase (as in, doesn't run round the house
actively trying to break things -- seen that on too many occasions)
then I'd go with the dog.
All in all, my cats were pretty good. The current crop of canines is
one female black lab and a male golden retriever. Both are smart and
well-behaved. Plus, they'll chase the neighbor's geese off my
property--something that a cat would never do.
But I wouldn't trade my little "colony"
of chinchillas for anything.
They're just too much fun to watch (especially the little 'uns!) :)
Fur critters, huh? I'm fighting a running battle with some nutria
that keep invading my pond, but they are definitely not "cute".
--Chuck
11:51 p.m.
Not necessarily--you're probably a city dweller
with limited time and
space
The computers take up the space. The cat right now lives with my folks.
They're secretly happy to have her, she's a very nice cat.
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12 Feb
12 Feb
2:46 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I've had cats and dogs, some at the same time.
I'll take dogs any
day.
Hmm, three cats and two dogs here - can't say I've really got a preference,
and they've all got their little personality plusses and then things that
drive me completely nuts.
At this time of year they're all useful little portable space heaters, anyway :-)
cheers
Jules
2:04 p.m.
> > What is it about classic computer people
and cats?
We're brighter!
> People who own a cat are more likely to have
a university degree than those with a pet dog, a study by Bristol University suggests.
<<
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8501042.stm
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