I'm reminded of one of my users who said her whole computer would "freak out" when she used her mouse. (BTW She's right handed...) So, once I get to her desk, everything is okay for me, and using the mouse (located to the right, and behind the keyboard.) was normal. So I ask her to show me. That's when I see her heavy, very loose & baggy sleeve, wool sweater push down just about every key on the numeric keypad. Especially the Enter key. When I pointed this out to her, she said "No it's not. It's the computer!" "Really? Okay. Well I'm gonna go downstairs and check the server for problems. In the meantime, watch your sleeve, just in case." And no, I didn't bother with the server. Just went to lunch. And never heard about that problem again... ......... Yeah, a DeWalt cordless and the proper bit work wonders. :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash