At 02:31 PM 8/26/98 PDT, you wrote: Well, reloading is a popular sport -- you take used cartridges, cast your own bullets (heat metal, pour into molds), and combine them with as much gunpowder as you like. Modifying the casing wouldn't be too hard, I imagine for anyone with any basic metalworking skills, nor would altering the bullet mold. As for computer cases, early models were probably handmade; it's not that hard. Take a run to your local Tap Plastics store. You can pick up all kinds/sizes of plastics that can then be made into just about anything. Also, model car/plane/boat shops probably have stuff to let you work with plastics. Even metal cases aren't that hard; I have a friend who built, as one of his first projects, an amazing set of cabinets/shelves for his Land Rover out of aluminum. Some simple tools are required, but nothing earth-shattering. I was talking to someone recently (Rax?) about building a custom wood-glass-and-brass case for a computer. Not that hard to build your first one in a plywood case, then worry about the production cases once you've got financing. (Of course, just make sure that cable going to the vax behind the curtain doesn't show! 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/