RE: the discussion on converting the Sun Remarketing Mac XL back to a Lisa 2 - I called Sun Remarketing and spoke with their most knowledgable Lisa person (thanks Marion!) who was less than encouraging about the project. According to him, it is not just replacing a few ROMs and PALs, and removing a transformer from the CRT yoke - it requires replacing the main logic board a little hard to find. On the other hand, this group always seems to have someone who, not knowing a task was impossible, did it anyway! I you're out there and have "done it" - please make yourself known! Bob Stek bobstek(a)ix.netcom.com Saver of lost SOLs