21 Mar
2016
21 Mar
'16
9 p.m.
Anyone have the multinet 4.1 PAK checksum and install key info? I need to
re-install my PAK and I don't have *doh!* the checksum value. I thought I
did but...nope.
------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version --
Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Date Expires
MULTINET TGV 200 F 0 0.0 31-JUL-1997 (none)
A-10098-116512
issued by TGV
thanks
Bill
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22 Mar
22 Mar
4:29 a.m.
Anyone have the multinet 4.1 PAK checksum and install key info? I need to
re-install my PAK and I don't have *doh!* the checksum value. I thought I
did but...nope.
You can get a Multinet hobbyist license from Process software if you first get
a VMS hobbyist license from HP. Both are free of charge and entail a small
amount of form filling on websites. The main snag is the licenses need to be
renewed each year. You also need to be a member of a user group such as DECUS
or Interex or whatever it is called this week. Some of these have membership
fees but as far as I know, there is at least one international group that
anyone can join for free.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
5:29 a.m.
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:29:18 +0100, Peter Coghlan
<cctalk at beyondthepale.ie> wrote:
You also need to be a member of a user group such as
DECUS
or Interex or whatever it is called this week. Some of these have
membership
fees but as far as I know, there is at least one international group that
anyone can join for free.
I'd be interested in joining -- anyone have info on the international
group?
--GT
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lot of memory may randomly crash at any time for no apparent reason'"
[Stackoverflow forum, 2012]
5:45 a.m.
On 3/22/2016 7:29 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
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creating an account.
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Anyone have the multinet 4.1 PAK checksum and install key info? I need to
re-install my PAK and I don't have *doh!* the checksum value. I thought I
did but...nope.
You can get a Multinet hobbyist license from Process software if you first get
a VMS hobbyist license from HP. Both are free of charge and entail a small
amount of form filling on websites. The main snag is the licenses need to be
renewed each year. You also need to be a member of a user group such as DECUS
or Interex or whatever it is called this week. Some of these have membership
fees but as far as I know, there is at least one international group that
anyone can join for free.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
5:52 a.m.
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:38 +0100, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
Anyone can also get a free membership at Encompasserve
by ssh to
eisner.decus.org and creating an account.
Good to know -- many thanks, Peter! Most of the ones I tried were long
defunct.
--GT
--
"END OF LINE" [MCP, 1982]
"... nowhere in the standards is it specified that 'programs that use a
lot of memory may randomly crash at any time for no apparent reason'"
[Stackoverflow forum, 2012]
7:50 a.m.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Dr. Roland Schregle <
roland.schregle at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:38 +0100, John H. Reinhardt
<
johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
Anyone can also get a free membership at Encompasserve by ssh to
thanks all.
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eisner.decus.org and creating an account.
Good to know -- many thanks, Peter! Most of the ones I tried were long
defunct.
--GT
--
"END OF LINE" [MCP, 1982]
"... nowhere in the standards is it specified that 'programs that use a
lot of memory may randomly crash at any time for no apparent reason'"
[Stackoverflow forum, 2012]
26 Mar
26 Mar
7:05 a.m.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:50 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Dr. Roland Schregle <
roland.schregle at gmail.com> wrote:
To get a MULTINET license, you need the VMS checksum.
For my version of VMS, there is no way that I know of to get the checksum
of VMS, I tried everything. I even dumped the license file to look
manually. I could see remains of MULTINET in there, but as far as I could
tell I could not see any checksum for anything installed in my system. I
am trying to get a working PAK for MUTLINET 4.1:
Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:38 +0100, John H.
Reinhardt <
johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
Anyone can also get a free membership at Encompasserve by ssh to
eisner.decus.org and creating an account.
Good to know -- many thanks, Peter! Most of the ones I tried were long
defunct.
--GT
7:44 a.m.
11:30 a.m.
> To get a MULTINET license, you need the VMS
checksum.
<snip>
$ SHOW LICENSE [everything there is]
I can get an output, but CHECKSUM is not listed like it is mentioned here:
http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=10&thread_…
<snip>
(replace PAK names as needed, you might have OPENVMS-HOBBYIST or
need the base VAX-VMS, depending on how you had paid-for PAKs or
pure hobbyist, etc. etc.)
!$ dump out a DCL-flavored copy of the installed PAK
!$ lose the /PROCEDURE if you just want readable, not pasteable
$ LICENSE ISSUE /PROCEDURE VAX-VMS
!$ re-enable the license, since ISSUE'ing it marks it disabled
$ LICENSE ENABLE VAX-VMS
This works on VMS 5.5-2H4 (which is also capable of handling the
current-ish version of Multinet, v5.5).
-Ryan
2:24 p.m.
Bill,
To get a MULTINET license, you need the VMS checksum.
For my version of VMS, there is no way that I know of to get the checksum
of VMS, I tried everything. I even dumped the license file to look
manually. I could see remains of MULTINET in there, but as far as I could
tell I could not see any checksum for anything installed in my system. I
am trying to get a working PAK for MUTLINET 4.1:
I guess by "get the checksum of VMS", you mean find the checksum that was used
to validate your current VMS license. It is possible to do this (I outlined
how to do it in an email to you a week or two ago) but this is not what you
want to do.
To get a MULTINET hobbyist license, you first need to get a VMS hobbyist
license from HP. It is the checksum you get when you receive the VMS license
that you use to apply for the MULTINET hobbyist license.
Bad idea. Almost never a useful thing to do. Don't do that.
Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX
3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2
--
First of all, for anyone interested I ran the following command in an
effort to fix a totally different problem (explaining *why* would not help
at this point):
$ @MULTINET:PAK-DELETE
I had recorded everything I could, including what I thought was the license
key before I did this, with the thought I could just re-install. I
rebooted and since then I have not been able to get into multinet.
The next step would have been to run this command, but given multinet was
not working, I did *not* run
$ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSLICENSE
so MULTINET is still in the license database, at least I see it when I DUMP
the file. I am not sure if running @SYS$UPDATE:VMSLICENSE cleans the PAK
info out of the database after you delete the PAK from [???] somewhere.
$ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSLICENSE is just a command procedure for managing licenses.
It gives you a menu of license related tasks to choose from. It won't delete
anything unless you pick the DELETE option. Don't pick the DELETE option.
Great. So I went to the place to request a new checksum. Problem is they
want my VAX checksum first. I can't get that value, so I am stuck
They don't want the checksum of your existing VMS license. The want the
checksum you get when you get a hobbyist VMS license.
I tried commands
$ SHOW LICENSE [everything there is]
I can get an output, but CHECKSUM is not listed like it is mentioned here:
http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=10&thread_…
Is there a way to HEX edit some kind of hack to trick the system into
thinking the license is OK? A bit to flip? Everything was working
perfectly before I ran that @#$%! delete command! multinet had a working
IP and FQDM and email was working, etc.
You don't need to do anything like that. (It is possible to get the checksum
for a license in your license database without resorting to hackery, but you
don't need THAT checksum. You need the checksum from a VMS hobbyist license.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
27 Mar
27 Mar
7:33 a.m.
I guess by "get the checksum of VMS", you mean find the checksum that was
used
to validate your current VMS license. It is possible to do this (I
outlined
how to do it in an email to you a week or two ago) but this is not what you
want to do.
To get a MULTINET hobbyist license, you first need to get a VMS hobbyist
license from HP. It is the checksum you get when you receive the VMS
license
that you use to apply for the MULTINET hobbyist license.
Understood. thanks. I also see that I need all of the correct parameters
to generate the correct checksum or the software will not work correctly,
if I now understand correctly. I can't just stick in any old checksum, the
program that installes the PAK asks questions like issuer, producer,
availability, etc.
b
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7:40 a.m.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 10:33 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
One other thing to add, when I wrote down the info from the license
originally I made a little note on a scrap of paper, with the values I saw
at a point before I deleted the key originally
MULTINET
TGV
1
A-10-098-116512 (authorization?)
G (?)
H (?)
AA-10098-116512 (product token?)
I am not sure what the Hardware_ID is or if I need it, you're asked a bunch
of questions when you install the PAK.
b
I guess by "get the checksum of VMS", you mean find the checksum that was
used
to validate your current VMS license. It is possible to do this (I
outlined
how to do it in an email to you a week or two ago) but this is not what
you
want to do.
To get a MULTINET hobbyist license, you first need to get a VMS hobbyist
license from HP. It is the checksum you get when you receive the VMS
license
that you use to apply for the MULTINET hobbyist license.
Understood. thanks. I also see that I need all of the correct parameters
to generate the correct checksum or the software will not work correctly,
if I now understand correctly. I can't just stick in any old checksum, the
program that installes the PAK asks questions like issuer, producer,
availability, etc.
b
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29 Mar
29 Mar
3:31 p.m.
One other thing to add, when I wrote down the info from the license
originally I made a little note on a scrap of paper, with the values I saw
at a point before I deleted the key originally
MULTINET
TGV
1
A-10-098-116512 (authorization?)
G (?)
H (?)
AA-10098-116512 (product token?)
I am not sure what the Hardware_ID is or if I need it, you're asked a bunch
of questions when you install the PAK.
There are a whole bunch of license parameters but a given license won't make
use of them all. I have not seen Hardware_ID in use for Multinet licenses.
If the license you have doesn't have a Hardware_ID, just press enter to select
the default when you are asked for it.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
3:54 p.m.
On Mar 29, 2016 6:37 PM, "Peter Coghlan" <cctalk at beyondthepale.ie>
wrote:
make
>
> One other thing to add, when I wrote down the info from the license
> originally I made a little note on a scrap of paper, with the values I
saw
> at a point before I deleted the key originally
>
> MULTINET
> TGV
> 1
> A-10-098-116512 (authorization?)
> G (?)
> H (?)
> AA-10098-116512 (product token?)
>
> I am not sure what the Hardware_ID is or if I need it, you're asked a
bunch
of questions
when you install the PAK.
There are a whole bunch of license parameters but a given license won't use of them all. I have not seen Hardware_ID in use
for Multinet
licenses.
If the license you have doesn't have a
Hardware_ID, just press enter to
select
the default when you are asked for it.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I will let you know how it goes.
B
31 Mar
31 Mar
2:47 p.m.
I finally got back in. The trick was to use only the minimum parameters.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:54 PM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 29, 2016 6:37 PM, "Peter Coghlan" <cctalk at beyondthepale.ie>
wrote:
make
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>
> One other thing to add, when I wrote down the info from the license
> originally I made a little note on a scrap of paper, with the values I
saw
> at a point before I deleted the key
originally
>
> MULTINET
> TGV
> 1
> A-10-098-116512 (authorization?)
> G (?)
> H (?)
> AA-10098-116512 (product token?)
>
> I am not sure what the Hardware_ID is or if I need it, you're asked a
bunch
of
questions when you install the PAK.
There are a whole bunch of license parameters but a given license won't use of them all. I have not seen Hardware_ID in
use for Multinet
licenses.
If the license you have doesn't have a
Hardware_ID, just press enter to
select
the default when you are asked for it.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I will let you know how it goes.
B
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