23 Sep
2008
23 Sep
'08
11:21 a.m.
Small 50 pin SCSI disks should still be around
Checked their prices lately?
SCSI - IDE bridges are also drying up.
Flash isn't forever
Usefulness depends on the OS. Many don't swap.
23 Sep
23 Sep
11:39 a.m.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Al Kossow wrote:
Al, the auction link I posted was for a standard 50 pin to IDE interface
for $30. As of the time I posted the message he had 525 of them left.
Buy 'em now before you need 'em. :)
g.
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
Small 50 pin
SCSI disks should still be around
Checked their prices lately?
SCSI - IDE bridges are also drying up.
12:40 p.m.
Al, the auction link I posted was for a standard 50
pin to IDE interface
for $30. As of the time I posted the message he had 525 of them left.
Buy 'em now before you need 'em. :)
That's a **** good price! I don't need Narrow SCSI anywhere near as much as
I need newer versions, but I'm still considering buying some. This could be
a good way to get a cheap *BIG* disk on a VMS system for backing up the SCSI
disks to. Anyone happen to know how large of disks these support? Smaller
EIDE drives are getting harder to find. This might also be a good way to
add a CD or DVD burner to a system.
Here is a warning for anyone looking to use these under VMS though, they do
not support Volume Shadowing. As such I'd really only recommend using them
for a disk to backup to.
Any idea if this outfit combines shipping? They're charging a pretty high
shipping cost for something like this.
Zane
12:48 p.m.
Al, the
auction link I posted was for a standard 50 pin to IDE interface
for $30. As of the time I posted the message he had 525 of them left.
Buy 'em now before you need 'em. :)
That's a **** good price! I don't need Narrow SCSI anywhere near as much as
I need newer versions, but I'm still considering buying some. This could be
a good way to get a cheap *BIG* disk on a VMS system for backing up the SCSI
disks to. Anyone happen to know how large of disks these support? Smaller
EIDE drives are getting harder to find. This might also be a good way to
add a CD or DVD burner to a system.
Here is a warning for anyone looking to use these
under VMS though, they do
not support Volume Shadowing. As such I'd really only recommend using them
for a disk to backup to.
You mean the HARDWARE doesn't support it, or VMS doesn't support it for
SCSI devices?
Any idea if this outfit combines shipping?
They're charging a pretty high
shipping cost for something like this.
I ordered three of them and got a "discount" of something like $18 for
the UPS shipping charge.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
1:03 p.m.
There are also Ultra Wide and LVD versions on eBay.
If I remember
correctly the LVD version is about $80.
Still a bit more than I've wanted to spend. I missed a couple LVD ones at
$50 each a while back. :^(
Here is a
warning for anyone looking to use these under VMS though, they do
not support Volume Shadowing. As such I'd really only recommend using them
for a disk to backup to.
You mean the HARDWARE doesn't support it, or VMS doesn't support it for
SCSI devices? I ordered three of them and got a "discount"
of something like $18 for
the UPS shipping charge.
OK, that's not great, but still acceptable. I just might order a few.
Zane
2:05 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I need newer versions, but I'm still considering
buying some. This
could be
a good way to get a cheap *BIG* disk on a VMS system
for backing up the
SCSI
disks to. Anyone happen to know how large of disks
these support?
Smaller
EIDE drives are getting harder to find. This might
also be a good way
to
add a CD or DVD burner to a system.
Doesn't say. 100GB IDE drives are basically free. I'd really like to get
something
of that size (or maybe a bit bigger) onto my VAXstation 4000-90.
Here is a warning for anyone looking to use these under
VMS though,
they do
not support Volume Shadowing. As such I'd really
only recommend using
them
for a disk to backup to.
This sounds like you've tried?
I recently had a go at putting a 140GB SCA-80 SCSI disk on my VAXstation
4000-90
and it didn't want to know. I've not investigated very far and it may be
something
very simple, but it just diudn't play ball. Similarly a 68-pin 36GB
device didn't
work. I do, however, have 3 18GB 68-pin SCSI disks working in there
quite
happily.
So a simple solution that works in my VS4k90 would be really nice. If
anyone
has one working in such an environment, I'd certainly be keen to know.
FWIW: I don't care about volume shadowing too much. I just want to image
all my ODS-2 CDs to a disk. Actually, having gone to all that trouble
I'd then
want to back that disk up to another one that would then just sit on the
shelf,
but otherwise I'm not too concerned about backup!
Antonio
2:16 p.m.
Antonio Carlini wrote:
This sounds like you've tried?
I recently had a go at putting a 140GB SCA-80 SCSI disk on my
VAXstation 4000-90 and it didn't want to know. I've not investigated
very far and it may be something very simple, but it just diudn't
play ball. Similarly a 68-pin 36GB device didn't work. I do, however,
have 3 18GB 68-pin SCSI disks working in there quite happily.
So a simple solution that works in my VS4k90 would be really nice. If
anyone has one working in such an environment, I'd certainly be keen
to know.
FWIW: I don't care about volume shadowing too much. I just want to
image all my ODS-2 CDs to a disk. Actually, having gone to all that
trouble I'd then want to back that disk up to another one that would
then just sit on the shelf, but otherwise I'm not too concerned about
backup!
Doesn't the wide drive have to specifically support narrow mode for this
to work properly?
Peace... Sridhar
3:20 p.m.
Here is a
warning for anyone looking to use these under VMS though, they
do
not support Volume Shadowing. As such I'd
really only recommend using
them
for a disk to backup to.
This sounds like you've tried? I recently had a go at putting a 140GB SCA-80 SCSI
disk on my VAXstation
4000-90 and it didn't want to know. I've not investigated very far and it
may be something very simple, but it just diudn't play ball. Similarly a
68-pin 36GB device didn't work. I do, however, have 3 18GB 68-pin SCSI
disks working in there quite happily.
The guy from Island Computing (his name escapes me at the moment) reported
this a few years ago on comp.os.vms. The latest SCSI drives won't sync down
to Narrow SCSI.
Zane
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