I've got both beige and black drives of this type. They were used in the Maynard line of tape drives, and are really quite widely used, though almost no PC-software supports them for "real" backups. Most of the software I've seen for '95 is limited to floppy tapes and SCSI-II or later drives. That's a shame, since the GOV went to this format after they learned that one little 8 mm tape will hold what it takes a pickup truck of the old open reel 6250 bpi tapes to hold. The button and lamp locations were quite varied, since exabyte purchased the mechanisms from SONY and they could be varied a bit. Dick ---------- <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>