2 Oct
2002
2 Oct
'02
2:35 p.m.
It's been a long day. This was good for a laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772937615
Jeffrey H. Ingber (jingber(a)ix.netcom.com)
2 Oct
2 Oct
2:49 p.m.
On 1 Oct 2002, Jeffrey H. Ingber wrote:
It's been a long day. This was good for a laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772937615
Pfft... I needed that ;)
Hey, it even has an UPS card and a light pen! :)
-Toth
2:51 p.m.
Hey, somebody squished a cube and painted it white! :-)
On a slightly more serious note, does the description mean it's running
OpenStep?
-- Tony
At 07:34 PM 10/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
It's been a long day. This was good for a laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772937615
Jeffrey H. Ingber (jingber(a)ix.netcom.com)
8:29 p.m.
Actually there are Intel "white" Next's. Doubtfull they would be Pentium
based tho.
Lawrence
Hey, somebody squished a cube and painted it white!
:-)
On a slightly more serious note, does the description mean it's running
OpenStep?
-- Tony
At 07:34 PM 10/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com
It's been a long day. This was good for a
laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772937615
Jeffrey H. Ingber (jingber(a)ix.netcom.com)
8:39 p.m.
on 10/3/02 12:30 AM, Lawrence Walker at lgwalker(a)mts.net wrote:
Actually there are Intel "white" Next's.
Doubtfull they would be Pentium
based tho.
I have a NeXTstep 3.x CD that says it contains the black and white (NeXT and
Intel) versions of the OS. So by 'Intel' does it mean PCs, or specialized
Intel based hardware? I always thought it meant that it would run on 486 and
higher PCs, but I haven't been able to get it to boot on any, which leads me
to believe that it isn't for generic Intel hardware. Or maybe I need a boot
floppy which I don't have.
--
Owen Robertson
9:23 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Owen Robertson wrote:
I have a NeXTstep 3.x CD that says it contains the
black and white (NeXT
and Intel) versions of the OS. So by 'Intel' does it mean PCs, or
specialized Intel based hardware? I always thought it meant that it
would run on 486 and higher PCs, but I haven't been able to get it to
boot on any, which leads me to believe that it isn't for generic Intel
hardware. Or maybe I need a boot floppy which I don't have.
It works on some subset of "generic" intel hardware. Basically you need a
VGA card, a supported disk controller, an Intel 80486 CPU, 16 MB RAM. The
CD is not bootable on intel; the two boot floppies are required.
Canon sold the Object.station 41, which is essentially a generic i486
system, integrated specifically to run NEXTSTEP.
ok
r.
3 Oct
3 Oct
2:34 a.m.
I'm running it on a Pentium 233 at work. You need the intel boot
floppy, the first driver disk, the second driver disk and the additional
driver disk all of which can be downloaded at Apple, a supported video
and network card and a supported SCSI card even if you are installing
on an IDE hard drive. NS3.3 won't install using a ATAPI CD-ROM, it must
be installed using a SCSI drive. There is a beta IDE driver that is
supposed to support installs with IDE CD-ROM,s but I've never got it to
work. Also NS3.3 won't recognize partitions over 2.2gb without risk of
filesystem corruption. NeXTstep 3.3 works with Matrox Millenium PCI
video cards, NE2000 10BT NIC's and Adaptec SCSI cards (some models).
I put my intel box together out of cast off junk that was cluttering up
the workbench area.
NeXT never produced any hardware that wasn't Motorola based, however the
Canon line of object.stations were intel based. The 31 and 41 were
486DX4-100's and the 51 and 61 were Pentiums.
James
Owen Robertson wrote:
on 10/3/02 12:30 AM, Lawrence Walker at
lgwalker(a)mts.net wrote:
http://webpages.charter.net/jrice54/classiccomp2.html
Actually there are Intel "white"
Next's. Doubtfull they would be Pentium
based tho.
I have a NeXTstep 3.x CD that says it contains the black and white (NeXT and
Intel) versions of the OS. So by 'Intel' does it mean PCs, or specialized
Intel based hardware? I always thought it meant that it would run on 486 and
higher PCs, but I haven't been able to get it to boot on any, which leads me
to believe that it isn't for generic Intel hardware. Or maybe I need a boot
floppy which I don't have.
9:53 a.m.
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Owen Robertson wrote:
It runs just fine on Pentium systems, at least with the subset of video
and network cards it supports. Up until the end of 2000, DreamWork's
Animation used a variety of Dell Pentium systems, maybe even some PIIs,
for their pencil test stations. In 2001, we moved to Linux/Intel based
system.
If you need a NEXTSTEP 3.3 boot floppy, I'll mail you an image which you
can use dd or rawrite.exe to put onto a 1.44MB floppy.
-brian.
on 10/3/02 12:30 AM, Lawrence Walker at
lgwalker(a)mts.net wrote:
Actually there
are Intel "white" Next's. Doubtfull they would be Pentium
based tho.
I have a NeXTstep 3.x CD that says it contains the black and white (NeXT and
Intel) versions of the OS. So by 'Intel' does it mean PCs, or specialized
Intel based hardware? I always thought it meant that it would run on 486 and
higher PCs, but I haven't been able to get it to boot on any, which leads me
to believe that it isn't for generic Intel hardware. Or maybe I need a boot
floppy which I don't have. 
2 Oct
2 Oct
3:02 p.m.
It's been a long day. This was good for a laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1772937615
Jeffrey H. Ingber (jingber(a)ix.netcom.com)
Main thing I see with it is that the seller probably has no idea how little
it's actually worth.... Either that or we don't.
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