Glen.. i have 2 of these caddies. there is a store in redondo beach ca that had stacks of them. i don't know if they still do.i can check for you if you need some. they were top loading. i can part with mine if necessary but they do go with 2 plextor 4x cdroms. jeff duncan hi ethan....ltns. been off this list for a while.... good to see you are still here. say hi to franco, jim etc at yin yeu (sp?) --