15 Aug
2005
15 Aug
'05
4:49 p.m.
Yea, the subject line is "baited," but technically, the machine's
offtopic... I have an Amiga 4000T now (built in January 1998!) with a
"standard" VGA card (It's got an S3 Virge chipset), 2G SCSI HD, CD-ROM
reader & not much else.
I'm thinking of setting this machine up for the kids as a 'game' machine
but as it doesn't have ethernet, I'm not sure how easy that may be. I also
don't have any install disks or anything, so I don't want to do too much to
it, have it b0rk, and have no way of restoring/reformatting. [[ I also
don't know much at all about Amigas, other than the fact I really drooled
over them & the Atari ST's when I couldn't afford 'em... ;-) ]]
Here's the stats on the box:
Version 3.1 ROM,
Kickstart Version 40.70
Workbench version 45.1
(I think this is AmigaOS 3.5...)
1,969,472 bytes Graphics Mem
11,534,728 bytes 'other' Mem
Multiview, 44.15 (6-6-2000)
It's got a 68040 in it, but IIRC, it's a 25Mhz.
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I don't have the coin for one of those Zorro <-> PCI thingamabobs on ePay,
and the last few searches I did didn't bring about much for an ethernet
adapter[1], so I'm guessing the best way to get info on the machine would
be via the CD-ROM drive and CD-R's. I think I could also compile a custom
Linux kernel that allow read/write access to an Amiga-formatted HD, but
I've never done it, so I don't really know for sure.
I have a few questions:
1) Was there ever a version of OS-9/68K that ran on Amiga hardware? I know
there was one that ran on the Atari ST series...
2) Would I be best off to just buy the latest available version of AmigaOS
(for dox, media, etc.) or should I search/wait/etc. for it? It easily meets
the 'minimum' install requirements for AmigaOS3.9, and is still better than
the "for improved usability" specs...
3) I have access to a SCSI CD-R/RW burner - Is this machine capable of
burning CDs (even at 1x - I'm not in a hurry... ;-) at all? That could help
me making backups in case of a disaster...
4) Anything else I forgot to ask about??? ;-)
Thanks,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] Admittedly, I haven't searched my brains out for one...
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15 Aug
15 Aug
5:06 p.m.
Yea, the subject line is "baited," but
technically, the machine's
offtopic... I have an Amiga 4000T now (built in January 1998!) with a
OK, I for one am green with envy! Though I was afraid you were going to
tell us you were lucky enough to get an AmigaOne.
"standard" VGA card (It's got an S3
Virge chipset), 2G SCSI HD, CD-ROM
reader & not much else.
Which video card is it? Is it a Picasso IV, or something else? Based on
the age of the machine I'd tend to guess a Picasso IV.
1,969,472 bytes Graphics Mem
11,534,728 bytes 'other' Mem
Little short on RAM. I don't remember what the options are for expanding
the RAM on an A4000.
It's got a 68040 in it, but IIRC, it's a
25Mhz.
OK, since I've only got a 68030/16 in my A3000 I'm still envious, but I'd
have expected this to have a 68060.
I don't have the coin for one of those Zorro
<-> PCI thingamabobs on ePay,
and the last few searches I did didn't bring about much for an ethernet
adapter[1], so I'm guessing the best way to get info on the machine would
be via the CD-ROM drive and CD-R's. I think I could also compile a custom
Linux kernel that allow read/write access to an Amiga-formatted HD, but
I've never done it, so I don't really know for sure.
Might be easiest to go Serial. You might even be able to get SLIP or PPP
running between the Amiga and Linux box.
BTW, about the time your system was built an ethernet card would have cost
about $200, IIRC. At least I think that's how much my 10Base2 card cost me.
I have a few questions:
1) Was there ever a version of OS-9/68K that ran on Amiga hardware? I know
there was one that ran on the Atari ST series...
No idea.
2) Would I be best off to just buy the latest
available version of AmigaOS
(for dox, media, etc.) or should I search/wait/etc. for it? It easily meets
the 'minimum' install requirements for AmigaOS3.9, and is still better than
the "for improved usability" specs...
You might as well buy a copy of Amiga OS 3.9, though I can't comment on the
differences between 3.5 and 3.9, as I don't think I've ever even seen 3.5
running. My A3000 runs 3.9.
3) I have access to a SCSI CD-R/RW burner - Is this
machine capable of
burning CDs (even at 1x - I'm not in a hurry... ;-) at all? That could help
me making backups in case of a disaster...
Yes, but does it have a SCSI adapter? IIRC, a stock A4000 uses IDE.
4) Anything else I forgot to ask about??? ;-)
My address so you can ship it to me :^) After all you don't really want to
mess with an A4000T :^)
Zane
20 Aug
20 Aug
11:54 p.m.
On 8/15/05, Roger Merchberger <zmerch at 30below.com> wrote:
I don't have the coin for one of those Zorro
<-> PCI thingamabobs on ePay,
and the last few searches I did didn't bring about much for an ethernet
adapter[1]...
I don't have any Zorro<->PCI boards, but I do make the GG2 Bus+, a
Zorro<->ISA board. Comes with drivers for some older, standard 16-bit
Ethernet cards. The WD/SMC8013 is a good one, the venerable NE2000 is
the ordinary one that goes with it. Get a jumpered card so you don't
have to fiddle with DOS config programs, or just config a jumperless
card in a DOS box and migrate it.
1) Was there ever a version of OS-9/68K that ran on
Amiga hardware? I know
there was one that ran on the Atari ST series...
Dunno about OS/68K, but there was Amiga MINIX.
2) Would I be best off to just buy the latest
available version of AmigaOS
(for dox, media, etc.) or should I search/wait/etc. for it? It easily meets
the 'minimum' install requirements for AmigaOS3.9, and is still better than
the "for improved usability" specs...
If you don't have docs,, you might want a "new" AmigaOS set, but it
probably wouldn't take long to scare up an OS3.1 doc set, or a
complete OS 3.5 set for less than OS3.9.
3) I have access to a SCSI CD-R/RW burner - Is this
machine capable of
burning CDs (even at 1x - I'm not in a hurry... ;-) at all? That could help
me making backups in case of a disaster...
Yes it is, but back in the old days, the tools to image Amiga
filesystem CD-Rs was not freeware. ISO-9660 isn't a problem.
4) Anything else I forgot to ask about??? ;-)
Hmm... the basics are, a) does it boot (does the boot disk still
work), b) do you have a mouse and keyboard, c) do you have a network
card... so I think you've hit the high points.
-ethan
21 Aug
21 Aug
12:06 a.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
Which model are we talking about? Something with an MMU? If so,
there's a bunch of stuff that'll run.
Peace... Sridhar
1) Was there
ever a version of OS-9/68K that ran on Amiga hardware? I know
there was one that ran on the Atari ST series...
Dunno about OS/68K, but there was Amiga MINIX.
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