24 Apr
2010
24 Apr
'10
2:46 p.m.
I'm looking for the 6 keytop from the numeric keypad for an Apple ///. I've
already replaced the broken-off keyswitch, but, of course the keytop is long gone.
-Ian
24 Apr
24 Apr
2:49 p.m.
On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Mr Ian Primus wrote:
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Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I'm looking for the 6 keytop from the numeric
keypad for an
Apple ///. I've already replaced the broken-off keyswitch, but, of
course the keytop is long gone.
Should you happen to find a donor, I'm in need of a few ///
keycaps as well. The machine is still in my car; I will check to see
which ones I'm missing when I go out there.
-Dave
3:04 p.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
Dear sirs,
I have a 16500A logic analyzer mainframe from HP. I'm looking for a
proper keyboard, any chances? It is the same keyboard (connector looks like
a RJ45) used on old HP computers
Thanks
Alexandre
PS: I'm also looking for everything for it: Software, manuals, mouse, a
way to connect a keyboard, etc)
4:45 p.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas
<pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
? Dear sirs,
? I have a 16500A logic analyzer mainframe from HP. I'm looking for a proper
keyboard, any chances? It is the same keyboard (connector looks like a RJ45)
used on old HP computers
? PS: I'm also looking for everything for it: Software, manuals, mouse, a
way to connect a keyboard, etc)
Are you missing the OS floppies for the 16500A? You can download a
zip file from the Agilent website which contains the files for the OS
floppies. It also contains a copy of LIFUTIL, which you will need to
create the floppies from a PC.
The Agilent website also has PDF manuals for the 16500A and most of
the modules you can use with it.
HP-HIL keyboards and mice shouldn't be too hard to find. They are
often available on eBay but not always cheap.
9:15 p.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
The Agilent website also has PDF manuals for the 16500A
and most of
the modules you can use with it.
Thanks Glen! I downloaded everything and it is working :D
HP-HIL keyboards and mice shouldn't be too hard to
find. They are
often available on eBay but not always cheap.
I'm looking for a set (mouse/keyboard)). If anyone has a cheap kit... ;)
25 Apr
25 Apr
10:29 a.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
Dear sirs,
I have a 16500A logic analyzer mainframe from HP. I'm looking for a
proper keyboard, any chances? It is the same keyboard (connector looks like
a RJ45) used on old HP computers
I suspect you mean an HP-HIL interfaced keyobard, this does have a flat 6
pin connector with latches on the sides. This keyboard was used on some
HP9000 machines, the HP150-II, etc.
Some older HP machines (HP150m, HP120, HP9816, etc) had their own
custom-interfaced keyboards (all were different, although the first 2 I
mentioned are closely related) using an RJ12 type plug.
If it is HP-HIL (HP Human Interface Link, not to be confused with HPIL --
HP Interface Loop [1]) then it shouldn't be too hard to find a keyboard.
The older one is an HP46020, the later one is an HP46021 (I believe
they're compatible), Rik told me there as also an HP46030 (?) which sends
different keycoeds and was used on the Vectra. I've never sene that one.
[1] HP never made an HPIL keyboard, but there's a design for one (using
the HP82166 converter) in 'Control the World with HPIL'.
Where are you? I assume you're not in the UK, if you are I might be able
to dig one out.
-tony
1:46 p.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
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Onderwerp: Re: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
Mmh, I presume I have to make a picture of it..
Dear sirs,
I have a 16500A logic analyzer mainframe from HP. I'm
looking for
a proper keyboard, any chances? It is the same
keyboard (connector
looks like a RJ45) used on old HP computers
I suspect you mean an HP-HIL interfaced keyobard, this does
have a flat 6 pin connector with latches on the sides. This
keyboard was used on some HP9000 machines, the HP150-II, etc.
Some older HP machines (HP150m, HP120, HP9816, etc) had their
own custom-interfaced keyboards (all were different, although
the first 2 I mentioned are closely related) using an RJ12 type plug.
If it is HP-HIL (HP Human Interface Link, not to be confused
with HPIL -- HP Interface Loop [1]) then it shouldn't be too
hard to find a keyboard.
The older one is an HP46020, the later one is an HP46021 (I
believe they're compatible), Rik told me there as also an
HP46030 (?) which sends different keycoeds and was used on
the Vectra. I've never sene that one. [1] HP never made an HPIL keyboard, but there's a
design for
one (using the HP82166 converter) in 'Control the World with HPIL'.
Where are you? I assume you're not in the UK, if you are I
might be able to dig one out.
-Rik
26 Apr
26 Apr
10:34 a.m.
New subject: Looking for a proper HP keyboard
Rik told me
there as also an
HP46030 (?) which sends different keycoeds and was used on
the Vectra. I've never sene that one.
Mmh, I presume I have to make a picture of it.. 
24 Apr
24 Apr
6:58 p.m.
At 5:49 PM -0400 4/24/10, Dave McGuire wrote:
On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Mr Ian Primus wrote:
I have a donor ///, or ///+ I'm not sure which, but it's buried in
the garage. I can put the two of you on the list of stuff to keep an
eye out for once I start cleaning things out if you want.
I'm not sure the condition of the system itself, but I know the magic
smoke has been let out of something. I salvaged it a few years ago
to be a parts donor.
Zane
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I'm looking for the 6 keytop from the numeric
keypad for an Apple
///. I've already replaced the broken-off keyswitch, but, of course
the keytop is long gone.
Should you happen to find a donor, I'm in need of a few ///
keycaps as well. The machine is still in my car; I will check to
see which ones I'm missing when I go out there.
7:45 p.m.
--- On Sat, 4/24/10, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
I have a donor ///, or ///+ I'm not sure which,
but it's
buried in the garage.? I can put the two of you on the
list of stuff to keep an eye out for once I start cleaning
things out if you want.
I'm not sure the condition of the system itself, but I know
the magic smoke has been let out of something.? I
salvaged it a few years ago to be a parts donor.
I wouldn't suggest scrapping an entire machine just because Dave and I need a few
keytops. The Apple /// is well known for it's ability to lose it's magic smoke.
It's a fault of the power supply and is easily repaired. Mine had the same problem. I
had the power supply working in very little time.
Also, the ///+ uses a different keyboard...
But, if the thing has real bad cosmetic damage, or something else horribly wrong with it,
I'd be interested in the disk drive.
-Ian
25 Apr
25 Apr
10:23 a.m.
I'm looking for the 6 keytop from the numeric keypad for an Apple ///.
I've already replaced the broken-off keyswitch, but, of course the
keytop is long gone.
On a related subject, has anyone managed to make their own keycaps either
by using ah ome-made injection moulding machine (I've seen a couple of
books on this, and the average keycap is small enough to be made that
way) or using one of htose rapid prototyping machines ('3D printers')?
-tony
26 Apr
26 Apr
2:17 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for an Apple /// keytop
Or how about a way to replace key labels? The bottom right leg of the 'K' on
my laptop is half gone. Other letters are also being worn away in places.
Sure I could use plain old white labels and write (or print) letters on
them, but it would look very tacky :(
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
I'm looking for the 6 keytop from the numeric keypad for an Apple ///.
I've already replaced the broken-off keyswitch, but, of course the
keytop is long gone.
On a related subject, has anyone managed to make their own keycaps either
by using ah ome-made injection moulding machine (I've seen a couple of
books on this, and the average keycap is small enough to be made that
way) or using one of htose rapid prototyping machines ('3D printers')?
-tony 
27 Apr
27 Apr
2:39 p.m.
On 26/04/2010 22:17, Andrew Burton wrote:
Or how about a way to replace key labels? The bottom
right leg of the 'K' on
my laptop is half gone. Other letters are also being worn away in places.
Sure I could use plain old white labels and write (or print) letters on
them, but it would look very tacky :(
Some engravers will engrave plastic keytops. Makes a change from sports
trophies.
Proper keycaps of course are two-shot moulded :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
28 Apr
28 Apr
2:10 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete at dunnington.plus.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for an Apple /// keytop
My dad used to do glass engraving (from home) about 20 years ago. Didn't get
much work, so he ended up selling the kit several years later.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
On 26/04/2010 22:17, Andrew Burton wrote:
> Or how about a way to replace key labels? The bottom right leg of the
'K' on
> my laptop is half gone. Other letters are also
being worn away in
places.
Sure I could
use plain old white labels and write (or print) letters on
them, but it would look very tacky :(
Some engravers will engrave plastic keytops. Makes a change from sports
trophies.
Proper keycaps of course are two-shot moulded :-)
6:06 p.m.
Pete Turnbull wrote:
Some engravers will engrave plastic keytops. Makes a
change from sports
trophies.
Hmm. I wonder if any of the local engravers can deal with anodised
aluminium instrument panels...
Would be a very easy way to get some panels done up for the DiscFerret
prototypes -- use the Dremel to knock out the holes, then have them
engraved. Not sure about cheap though...
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
29 Apr
29 Apr
8:05 a.m.
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Philip Pemberton wrote:
Pete Turnbull wrote:
Phil, a laser engraver will make white lettering on anodized aluminum - it
doesn't actually cut the material, just turns it white. I think due to
oxidation. A colored anodized aluminum panel looks great when engraved
like this. I'll be happy to do some engraving for you in trade for a
DiscFerret. :)
g.
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Some engravers will engrave plastic keytops.
Makes a change from sports
trophies.
Hmm. I wonder if any of the local engravers can deal with anodised aluminium
instrument panels...
Would be a very easy way to get some panels done up for the DiscFerret
prototypes -- use the Dremel to knock out the holes, then have them engraved.
Not sure about cheap though...
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