15 Aug
2019
15 Aug
'19
8:38 p.m.
From: Seth J. Morabito
> having stuff scattered across a zillion personal
pages (be they blogs,
> or whatever) is going to make it hard to find the useful one when
> needed
The sheer vastness of content available, combined with
a Google
monoculture, combined with a concerted attempt to GAME the Google
monoculture, is making search and discovery hard
An additional issue, I think, is that Google is deprecating sites that use
HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start ranting at the utter
stupidity of forcing everyone to use HTTPS. But if those blogs are using
HTTP, that will push them down the results.
I honestly don't know what to do about it. I
don't have a better idea,
unless we go back to something like a directory-style curated
experience, a-la Yahoo! circa 1998-ish.
I'm not sure that would scale to cover detailed pages on obsolete computers;
why is a manual indexer going to cover them?
Anyway, the whole 'how do we find the info' is a part of why I started
working on CHWiki, once I discovered it - in addition to the usual advantages
of wikis (good for collaboration, good for adding stuff incrementally), it
would put all the info in one place, a 'one stop shopping' for old computer
info.
But when I tried to convince people to post stuff there, instead of on their
blogs, I got at least one person who was pretty vehement that no way in h***
were they going to stop putting their stuff in their own blog.
Noel
15 Aug
15 Aug
11:24 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Anyway, the whole 'how do we find the info' is
a part of why I started
working on CHWiki, once I discovered it - in addition to the usual
advantages
of wikis (good for collaboration, good for adding stuff incrementally), it
would put all the info in one place, a 'one stop shopping' for old computer
info.
Psst: it would've been a good idea to share the URL to CHWiki. It's
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Main_Page - the address to a site I was already
familiar with, but not under the name you used for it. (It was a bit hard
to find with Google, which just goes to show...)
--
Eric Christopherson
11:11 a.m.
On 08/16/2019 02:50 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote:
I kind of wonder what this is all about? I mean, why do you
have to encrypt today's weather report, a company's public
web page, and such stuff. Just to waste CPU time?
Jon
An additional issue, I think, is that Google is
deprecating sites that use
HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start
ranting at the utter
Not true, in contrary, Google even crawls through FTP
sites :-)
2:02 p.m.
On 8/16/2019 1:50 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote:
Well with me I have been finding with many searches, the modern browsers
refuse to display sites for "what they figure is unsafe" yet the porn
ads still show. I can find it, but not view it.
Ben.
An additional issue, I think, is that Google is
deprecating sites that
use
HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start ranting at the
utter
Not true, in contrary, Google even crawls through FTP sites :-)
Christian
17 Aug
17 Aug
6:09 a.m.
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, ben wrote:
Well with me I have been finding with many searches,
the modern browsers
refuse to display sites for "what they figure is unsafe" yet the porn ads
still show. I can find it, but not view it.
I use current versions of Firefox and Chrome/Chromium, and I don't have
any problems viewing sites. And for your porn problem, what about using
uBlock and NoScript?
Christian
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