21 Jan
2001
21 Jan
'01
2:46 p.m.
The worst pages I've seen for quite awhile.
I gave up.
a jeepers are you ticklish!
try tha then:
http://www.calmira.org/links/index.shtml
fred
21 Jan
21 Jan
3:08 p.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Jeff
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10:40 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:08:09 -0500
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: 386 to 486
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades that
plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
This is great tinker thing to broost some performance out of a 386.
386DX is 486DLC, oh you also need 387DLC to go with it.
Oh yeah, there's 486DLC2 double clocked too. TI and Cyrix are same
chip of these. No matter what, you won't get a barn-burner like that
except with true intel or amd 486 that is directly supported
motherboard itself. Desktop model 70 w/ -Axx can take either 386dx
25 or 486dx 25 w/ BIOS set. Remember for clock vs clock, 486 is
twice as fast of what 386dx does except for SLC/DLC which is appox
10% faster over 386SX/DX
Only major expection made by IBM's 386SLC, 486SLC and DLC,
SLC2/DLC2 (appox DX2 40) and SLC3/DLC3 (appox DX4 75). All these
are very potent cpus due to larger L1 16K in both x2 and x3 while
straight ones is 8K. Intel/IBM aggrement only allows IBM to sell
IBM's unique x86 CPUs w/ built boards by IBM's or in IBM computers.
I had that unique MCA bus based thinkpad 700C w/ 486SLC2 50 in
it. Sweet little thing, only big negative w/ that notebook only can
accept MCA bus 2.5" hard drive. Imagine that!
But you still need to use utility to enable that little 1K cache for
that Cyrix/TI to get performance.
Cheers,
Wizard
10:28 p.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades that
plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design.
22 Jan
22 Jan
3:56 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Does anyone
have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. 
4:50 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
I have on of the upgrades for 386sx to 486slc. It is an evergreen design, but only
works with certain steppings of the 386sx chip.
James
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
They did -- I remember the upgrade kits. Dad nearly bought one but instead
fried our 386SX with a Cyrix co-processor which shorted out the board. Well,
it could have been Dad, and not the chip ;-) but we seemed to upgrade only
when Dad destroyed the computer. The 386 went up in smoke, so Dad got a
486DX/40, and then that literally burned down (the board one day just started
to warp and black wisps came out the cooling vents), so we got the P75. ;-)
The K2-450 they have now was because of Y2K fears, which turned out to be
unfounded, so my little sister has the P75. When she gets sick of it, I'll
use it to play old DOS games that Virtual PC doesn't like.
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-- Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- de Gaultier ---
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. 
6:12 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Kingston makes a turbochip for the socketed 386's but I'm not sure if they
have a version for the surface mounts that don't have an upgrade socket.
They have full info and docs on their website.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of James Rice
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:51 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: 386 to 486
I have on of the upgrades for 386sx to 486slc. It is an evergreen design,
but only
works with certain steppings of the 386sx chip.
James
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
They did -- I remember the upgrade kits. Dad nearly bought one but instead
fried our 386SX with a Cyrix co-processor which shorted out the board. Well,
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. it could have been Dad, and not the chip ;-) but we
seemed to upgrade only
when Dad destroyed the computer. The 386 went up in smoke, so Dad got a
486DX/40, and then that literally burned down (the board one day just
started
to warp and black wisps came out the cooling vents),
so we got the P75.
;-)
The K2-450 they have now was because of Y2K fears,
which turned out to be
unfounded, so my little sister has the P75. When she gets sick of it, I'll
use it to play old DOS games that Virtual PC doesn't like.
--
----------------------------- personal page:
http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University *
ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
-- Imagination is the one weapon in the war against
reality. -- de
Gaultier ---
5:02 p.m.
New subject: TI Expansion Unit
I have the following that I am selling for an acquaintance.
Let me know if you know anyone who is interested.
Texas Instruments Home Computer Peripheral Expansion System
Model No. PHP1200 in Original Box
Never used
23 Jan
23 Jan
1:15 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Mine is a snap on for the surface mount boards, just fits down over the
SMC 386.
Russ Blakeman wrote:
Kingston makes a turbochip for the socketed 386's but I'm not sure if they
have a version for the surface mounts that don't have an upgrade socket.
They have full info and docs on their website.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of James Rice
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:51 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: 386 to 486
I have on of the upgrades for 386sx to 486slc. It is an evergreen design,
but only
works with certain steppings of the 386sx chip.
James
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
They did -- I remember the upgrade kits. Dad nearly bought one but instead
fried our 386SX with a Cyrix co-processor which shorted out the board. Well,
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Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. it could have been Dad, and not the chip ;-) but
we seemed to upgrade only
when Dad destroyed the computer. The 386 went up in smoke, so Dad got a
486DX/40, and then that literally burned down (the board one day just
started
to warp and black wisps came out the cooling
vents), so we got the P75.
;-)
The K2-450 they have now was because of Y2K
fears, which turned out to be
unfounded, so my little sister has the P75. When she gets sick of it, I'll
use it to play old DOS games that Virtual PC doesn't like.
--
----------------------------- personal page:
http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University *
ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
-- Imagination is the one weapon in the war
against reality. -- de
Gaultier --- 
22 Jan
22 Jan
8:09 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
This is from my PS2 D-B
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:11:21 +0100
From: "Peter H. Wendt" <~phw(a)compunet.de>
Reply-To: ~phw(a)compunet.de
Organization: CompuNet? Hamburg
Hi !
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know
Evergreen made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale
on eBay. Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design.
is it possible to pop something like a 486slc chip
in a 8580-111?
Sure ... but it won't work :-)
The replacement-boards offered 486SX / DX mainly, the original
board
takes at least the "Blue Lightning" and other 486DLC-based chips.
The 486SLC is a 386SX-family processor and has only 16-bit
databus - so
it won't match the physical specs of the 32-bit Mod. 80 planar
without
further adaption.
n simple: No way.
Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany
- Please respond to : peterwendt(a)aol.com -
http://members.aol.com/phwimage1/mcaindex.htm
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From: Jerry Dumer <jhdumer(a)arn.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: Texas intruments Upgrade ??
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:23:26 -0500
Just plug it in. You will get about 10-20% increase. If you enable the
on-chip cache, maybe more. Cache requires a driver in the
autoexec.bat.
If you don't have one, holler, I'll email you a copy. I doubt it would
be worth your time on crystal changes.
Regards,
Jerry
Monza wrote:
I recently aquired a Texas Instruments TX 486DLC-40BGA
It was an upgrade for a 386 (installed originally on a Clone
MBoard) or so
I was told.
I was wondering would this chip work in either a 8580-041 or a
8573-121 ??
and if it would run, what kind of benifit would I see
?
BTW would any Upgrades be needed to the Ps/2 Mboard
itself...faster
crystals, etc ?
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Here's some other upgrades
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From: awilli7333(a)aol.com (AWilli7333)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: 286-486 upgrade
Date: 8 Apr 1998 02:10:46 GMT
I am wanting to upgrade my old ps/2 50z to a 486... for
the heck
of it.
kinda a neat extra computer to have around.. at any rate, has
anyone had
any experience with this upgrade.. and how did it turn
out for you?
thanks
if you want, feel free to email your responses to
dvb(a)full-moon.com
thanks
Hi Dave, I have used several different up grade chips on these
machines , The
"make it 486" with a math co-processer will help your computer
immensely. You
can run windows 3.1 with flair. Evergreen and cryrix also make
upgrade
processors. It is the easiest up grade you can do. Just pop out
the 286 chip
, being very careful not to damage the chip seat or socket , install
the new
chip . Some companies have disk set up you will run to set the
cache. Also
Knigston makes a upgrade processor. You should be able to find a
386 upgrade
for about 20-30.00 or a 486 upgrade for less than 50.00.
Neointeractive has
whole mother boards with 486 processors and 8 megs of ram for
under 100.00. If
you don't find what you want please e-mail me I may have some
486 chips left.
awilli7333(a)aol.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
10:46 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Now that I've thought about it a while, I was probably
thinking of the 486DLC when I typed that. I used to have a 386
motherboard that had an updated BIOS for the DLC, which was
pincompatible with the 386DX. It had the DLC already installed when
I bought it new and though it wasn't as fast as a 486DX part, it was
better than the 386's I had been running.
Jeff
--
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. 
11:19 a.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
No, but I have a 286 upgrade board for a XT.
-Lawrence LeMay
On Sun, 21 Jan
2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Now that I've thought about it a while, I was probably
thinking of the 486DLC when I typed that. I used to have a 386
motherboard that had an updated BIOS for the DLC, which was
pincompatible with the 386DX. It had the DLC already installed when
I bought it new and though it wasn't as fast as a 486DX part, it was
better than the 386's I had been running.
Jeff
--
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Does anyone have any of the 386 to 486 upgrades
that plug
into the 386DX socket, usually using the TI 486SLC? I know Evergreen
made such a beast, and in fact one just went up for sale on eBay.
Does anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design. 
12:14 p.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
I have a bunch of these different overdrive parts, maybe I will lay a few
out and take some pictures.
23 Jan
23 Jan
1:07 p.m.
New subject: 386 to 486
Jeff Hellige skrev:
>On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
>
>Did TI make a 486SLC too? I thought that was an IBM-exclusive design.
Now that I've thought about it a while, I was
probably
thinking of the 486DLC when I typed that. I used to have a 386
motherboard that had an updated BIOS for the DLC, which was
pincompatible with the 386DX. It had the DLC already installed when
I bought it new and though it wasn't as fast as a 486DX part, it was
better than the 386's I had been running.
The 486SLC is compatible with the i386, too, and runs happily along with an
i387. It's not particularly slow either, in particular due to its L1 cache.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6.
Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
26 Jan
26 Jan
8:52 a.m.
New subject: IIfx 6502 IOP in Linux
I made a quick search using IIfx and 6502, and DejaNews (crippled as it is)
returned the following from Linux patches
<http://x68.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=703511553.12&CONTEXT=980538148.663027739&hitnu
m=0>
It talks briefly about the issues around the 6502 IOP, whats been done, ie
compatibility mode, and some areas that need looking into.
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