On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:43:26PM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote: If you want origins of GUI, maybe you want a Xerox Star or maybe Apple Lisa. If you want something more mainstream I think the Macintosh Plus is more appropriate. Allowing 4 MB of RAM, an 800 KB floppy, and most importantly, a SCSI port. A Mac Plus with a hard disk was actually a very useful machine. A 128 K Mac was mostly promise and expensive dreams. I guess it depends upon what you want in the museum. Do you want something that is in some way typical or failures that showed the first glimmer? I was a Newton user for two models. But you might consider the first Palm Pilot instead. I didn't get a Palm until the wireless Palm VII, but the original was a sweet machine that hit its target dead on. Other than wireless (which is under appreciated) I am not sure any of the later Palm models are more than incremental additions to the original. Steve already got his Macintosh on the list. You already have a personal-sized Unix machine on the list. I don't think the nExT gets in. And the DEC Rainbow seems not worthy. DEC already gets two entries on your list with successful computers. The Rainbow was part of the fall of the company. The Alpha is also too obscure for such a small museum. Especially now that we see it dying. I am not sure what else should go off the list (some I don't know about and maybe should), but having dumped three, I think the following need to be added: - Altair. Too much hinged on the Altair to leave it out, including Bill's first product, a BASIC interpreter. Hook up a Lear Sieger ADM-1 (?) terminal and that hand pulled optical papertape reader I used to drool over. - Apple II. A breakthrough computer that made a real splash with both hackers and lots of real people, a splash that lasted for years. Extraordinarily influential computer. - IBM XT The original PC made micros respectable (and gave them a new name) but the XT was nearly the same and with its hard disk is representative of much of what we use today. Some early model PC is needed to represent the beginning of the explosion that is just now cooling. The little Vaio on your list is a nice entry to catch the other end. (I nominate the model I am typing on now, a Z505LE.) - HP Calculator Donno what model, probably their best selling programmable. I sadly don't include an early Macintosh Powerbook or TRS-80 Model 1. The Model 1, though important, is a too much of a side road. The Powerbook is covered by the early Macintosh and the Vaio. I also don't include an early Compaq; the Vaio is also the clone representative. And attach an ASR-33 to the PDP. -kb, the Kent who never got an ASR-33.