22 Feb
2001
22 Feb
'01
8:09 p.m.
A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up
X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts:
^Z = Undo
^X = Cut
^C = Copy
^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut
buffer?
These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with
this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left
of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros?
My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I don't recall this from
WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in
CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most
programs.
Regards,
Edwin
23 Feb
23 Feb
3:32 a.m.
At 11:09 PM 2/22/01 -0800, Edwin P. Groot wrote:
My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I
don't recall this from
WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in
CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most
programs.
That's an interesting question. Don't forget, Microsoft was and
still is a key developer for the Mac. There are plenty of Word
users on the Mac. My memory is that these keys were working
in Win 3.1, but I also existed on the Mac with cloverleaf instead
of control, of course. That sequence is in my Mac Word 5.0 from
December 1991, for example. I started seriously using and developing
under Windows 2.0, although I probably experimented with 1.x.
- John
7:23 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 08:32:08AM -0600, John Foust (jfoust(a)threedee.com) wrote:
At 11:09 PM 2/22/01 -0800, Edwin P. Groot wrote:
I've an Apple Extended Keyboard II with an overlay for the function
keys that reads "HELP CUT COPY PASTE" for F1 through F4. But I
remember using Macs of the same vintage as that keyboard using zxcv to
cut, paste, etc.
-Rich
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My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I
don't recall this from
WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in
CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most
programs.
That's an interesting question. Don't forget, Microsoft was and
still is a key developer for the Mac. There are plenty of Word
users on the Mac. My memory is that these keys were working
in Win 3.1, but I also existed on the Mac with cloverleaf instead
of control, of course.
8:43 a.m.
I am thinking of pre-Mac Apple. Any Apple /// and }{ users out there
to comment on that? Open or closed apple keys might have been combined
with ZXCV in some programs. I never used these machines so I don't know
what software writers did on the user interface.
Edwin
At 08:32 AM 2/23/2001 -0600, you wrote:
That's an interesting question. Don't forget,
Microsoft was and
still is a key developer for the Mac. There are plenty of Word
users on the Mac. My memory is that these keys were working
in Win 3.1, but I also existed on the Mac with cloverleaf instead
of control, of course. That sequence is in my Mac Word 5.0 from
- John
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