2 Feb
2007
2 Feb
'07
3:39 p.m.
Okay... I just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the
nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX.
Apple has had a Unix source license for a VERY VERY long time.
2 Feb
2 Feb
4:13 p.m.
On Fri, February 2, 2007 23:39, Al Kossow wrote:
Is it also worth a mention that the unix side of OSX is freely available
to download as Darwin?
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Okay... I
just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX.
Apple has had a Unix source license for a VERY VERY long time. 
4:43 p.m.
Al Kossow wrote:
And I think that herein lies the source of confusion.
I know Apple has a Unix source license. I was differentiating
between that and licensing your OS as branded UNIX.
Doc
Okay... I
just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX.
Apple has had a Unix source license for a VERY VERY long time. 
5:59 p.m.
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 15:39 -0800, Al Kossow wrote:
Thanks for that, Al. Would that apply to all future versions of
UNIX? That sounds more open-ended than licenses generally are. I would
think that they would have to get a new license for any new use of code,
such as the Mach stuff from BSD.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at voyager.net
Okay... I
just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX.
Apple has had a Unix source license for a VERY VERY long time. 
6:11 p.m.
There's no licensed AT&T code in the OS/x kernel or the apps... Unless you
buy the SCO argument that the methods and open api's from Unix need to be
licensed.
The AT&T suit with BSDI and UCB settled all the issues with the Net2 release
of BSD and FreeBSD released 2.0.x without any infringing code. The later
Mach is based off of BSD code from 4.3 and 4.4BSD which was resolved in that
suit.
Apple has nothing to fear on this one. I worked for Bell Labs and I was
surprised to find out the amount of Unix on Apple A/UX was around. Guys I
worked with actually worked on some stuff with Apple and Microsoft back in
the early 90's.
Bill
On 2/2/07, Warren Wolfe <wizard at voyager.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 15:39 -0800, Al Kossow wrote:
Thanks for that, Al. Would that apply to all future versions of
UNIX? That sounds more open-ended than licenses generally are. I would
think that they would have to get a new license for any new use of code,
such as the Mach stuff from BSD.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at voyager.net
Okay...
I just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX.
Apple has had a Unix source license for a VERY VERY long time.
11:44 p.m.
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 21:11 -0500, Bill Pechter wrote:
There's no licensed AT&T code in the OS/x
kernel or the apps... Unless you
buy the SCO argument that the methods and open api's from Unix need to be
licensed.
It sounds like you know whereof you speak. I guess it is not
surprising that Apple would NOT leave itself open to such nasty
possibilities. And, no, I most certainly do NOT buy SCO's arguments.
They have become a pointless company, and apparently aren't willing to
adapt to new circumstances.
The AT&T suit with BSDI and UCB settled all the
issues with the Net2 release
of BSD and FreeBSD released 2.0.x without any infringing code. The later
Mach is based off of BSD code from 4.3 and 4.4BSD which was resolved in that
suit.
Cool. Thanks for the info. It's better to have the facts than to
just blue-sky it... albeit somewhat more restrictive... <Grin>
Apple has nothing to fear on this one. I worked for
Bell Labs and I was
surprised to find out the amount of Unix on Apple A/UX was around. Guys I
worked with actually worked on some stuff with Apple and Microsoft back in
the early 90's.
Again, good information to have. Thanks!
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at voyager.net
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