8 May
1998
8 May
'98
2:53 a.m.
<But I remember one computer from the early 80's (don't remember the name)
<where the floppy was the computer -- a small SBC mounted on top of the
<floppy, and that's all there was.
AmproLB a complete z80, 64k, 2serial, printer port and SCSI on a board
the size of a 5.25" floppy. I have one.
I also have a SB180 that is faster with 4x the ram on a card half the
size.
Neither stepped around the problem by putting all of the base software on
rom. The EPSON PX-8 did. I also did it for a s100 system years before
that. With EPROMS, EEProms and Flash ram as dense as they are a 1.44mb
floppy seems a lot of work.
Allison
8 May
8 May
9:15 a.m.
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Allison J Parent wrote:
<But I remember one computer from the early
80's (don't remember the name)
<where the floppy was the computer -- a small SBC mounted on top of the
<floppy, and that's all there was.
AmproLB a complete z80, 64k, 2serial, printer port and SCSI on a board
the size of a 5.25" floppy. I have one.
I also have a SB180 that is faster with 4x the ram on a card half the
size.
Neither stepped around the problem by putting all of the base software on
rom. The EPSON PX-8 did. I also did it for a s100 system years before
that. With EPROMS, EEProms and Flash ram as dense as they are a 1.44mb
floppy seems a lot of work.
Allison
I learned from a friend who picked it up (for $3.10) at the swapmeet that
HP made a lunchbox that had HP-UX all in ROM. No drives in the box.
- don
9:35 a.m.
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Don Maslin wrote:
I learned from a friend who picked it up (for $3.10)
at the swapmeet that
HP made a lunchbox that had HP-UX all in ROM. No drives in the box.
The Integral PC! Tell him I'll give him $10 for it :-) It is 68K-based
and has a small subset of HP-UX in ROM, but it really wants to boot from a
disk hanging off its HPIB bus.
The HP OmniBook 300 I mentioned not only had DOS/Windows in ROM, but a
bunch of Microsoft apps as well (Word, Excel, etc). Microsoft built
special XIP versions for HP, but Windows was too dumb to handle XIP ROM
programs and virtual memory at the same time, so you were limited to
"standard mode" (286 mode).
Of course, these days, Windows CE devices have just about everything in
ROM, can handle XIP and an MMU, and have no floppies.
-- Doug
3:55 p.m.
Don Maslin wrote:
I learned from a friend who picked it up (for $3.10)
at the swapmeet that
HP made a lunchbox that had HP-UX all in ROM. No drives in the box.
Yes, the incredibly sexy HP Integral. I lusted after that machine just
from the ads in Unix World, then I got to play with one
a bit at a show
at Cal State Northridge, and then I wanted one _real bad_. Since
all I
had to play with at the time were Tandy 6000 Xenix boxen. I've
recovered a bit since then, but I'll double Doug's bid. (Since the AT&T
7300 systems I have are even sexier than the Integral though harder to
stash under an airplane seat.)
--
Ward Griffiths
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
7:26 p.m.
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
Don Maslin wrote:
I don't know that he is interested in selling it, but I'll pass the word
of interest if he is.
- don
I learned from a friend who picked it up (for
$3.10) at the swapmeet that
HP made a lunchbox that had HP-UX all in ROM. No drives in the box.
Yes, the incredibly sexy HP Integral. I lusted after that machine just
from the ads in Unix World, then I got to play with one a bit at a show
at Cal State Northridge, and then I wanted one _real bad_. Since all I
had to play with at the time were Tandy 6000 Xenix boxen. I've
recovered a bit since then, but I'll double Doug's bid. (Since the AT&T
7300 systems I have are even sexier than the Integral though harder to
stash under an airplane seat.)
--
Ward Griffiths
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
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