10 Feb
2004
10 Feb
'04
10:30 a.m.
Hey all,
I got a DEC 2000 Alpha server and it is working great!
It has VMS 5.2 installed on it and that's where I'm stuck.
Since I don't have a login user name or password I can't really do anything
with it.
Is there a way to "hack" VMS so I can get in?
Or do I just need to reinstall VMS and start from scratch?
-Ken V.
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10 Feb
10 Feb
10:37 a.m.
The older VMS 3.x used to have some holes in it.
Try logging in:
field
field
test
test
system
system
See if the backdoors are still open, otherwise you'll have to
reinstall. You 2K have a CD-rom? I will burn copies of the OpenVMS 7.3
Curt
Van Mersbergen, Ken wrote:
Hey all,
I got a DEC 2000 Alpha server and it is working great!
It has VMS 5.2 installed on it and that's where I'm stuck.
Since I don't have a login user name or password I can't really do anything
with it.
Is there a way to "hack" VMS so I can get in?
Or do I just need to reinstall VMS and start from scratch?
-Ken V.
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10:54 a.m.
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 16:37, Curt Vendel wrote:
The older VMS 3.x used to have some holes in it.
Try logging in:
field
field
test
test
system
system
See if the backdoors are still open, otherwise you'll have to
reinstall. You 2K have a CD-rom? I will burn copies of the OpenVMS
7.3
Er guys, it's not magically got any harder since I used to do it - RTFM:
http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmsdoc/vmsfaq/vmsfaq_005.html#mgmt5
basically:
>>b -flags 0,1
Once at the SYSBOOT prompt:
SET/STARTUP OPA0:
SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 0
SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0
CONTINUE
At the $ prompt:
$ SPAWN
$ @SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP
$ SET DEFAULT SYS$SYSTEM: ! or wherever SYSUAF.DAT resides
$ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:AUTHORIZE
MODIFY SYSTEM /PASSWORD=newpassword
EXIT
then reboot.
alex/melt
11:23 a.m.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, meltie wrote:
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 16:37, Curt Vendel wrote:
> The older VMS 3.x used to have some holes in it.
[snip]
Er guys, it's not magically got any harder since I
used to do it - RTFM:
http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmsdoc/vmsfaq/vmsfaq_005.html#mgmt5
basically:
>>>b -flags 0,1
etc...
this is exactly the procedure I took to 'break in' to my VAXStation3100 -
it worked perfectly the first time...
Cheerz
John
12:32 p.m.
The older VMS 3.x used to have some holes in it.
I'm pretty sure that those defaults were all removed
in V4.0 (about 1984-6) and if not, they were gone
by V5.0 (still late 1980s).
They found that people just didn't bother reading the
manuals that told you to change these.
Antonio
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10:41 a.m.
Ken do you have a DECUS account? You're gonna need to get a license
for Hobbyist VMS, I think membership is like $90
Curt
Van Mersbergen, Ken wrote:
Hey all,
I got a DEC 2000 Alpha server and it is working great!
It has VMS 5.2 installed on it and that's where I'm stuck.
Since I don't have a login user name or password I can't really do anything
with it.
Is there a way to "hack" VMS so I can get in?
Or do I just need to reinstall VMS and start from scratch?
-Ken V.
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11:58 a.m.
Eric Dittman wrote:
Is that a new thing, I've been paying (decus) for the last three years
just for licenses.
Dan
Ken do you have
a DECUS account? You're gonna need to get a license
for Hobbyist VMS, I think membership is like $90
You can join Encompass at the free associate level if you just was to
get the OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses.
12:10 p.m.
Ken do you have a DECUS account? You're gonna
need to get a license
for Hobbyist VMS, I think membership is like $90
You can join Encompass at the free associate level if you just was to
get the OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses.
5:49 p.m.
>>>DECUS or Encompass? Where are you located?
>>>
>>>
Decus (well not know), in the UK
12:34 p.m.
Is that a new thing, I've been paying (decus) for
the last
three years
just for licenses.
Far be it for me to suggest that you cease to support
a fine organisation, but if all you want are the
Hobbyist licences, sign up for associate membership
with the US DECUS, wait for the request to
be granted and then request the licences. Worked
fine for me (in the UK too).
Antonio
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1:39 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Antonio Carlini wrote:
Does DECUS serve any broader purpose other than doling out VMS licenses to
hobbyists who want to run old DEC gear?
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Is that a new
thing, I've been paying (decus) for the last three years
just for licenses.
Far be it for me to suggest that you cease to support a fine
organisation, but if all you want are the Hobbyist licences, sign up for
associate membership with the US DECUS, wait for the request to be
granted and then request the licences. Worked fine for me (in the UK
too). 
1:59 p.m.
Does DECUS serve any broader purpose other than doling
out VMS licenses to
hobbyists who want to run old DEC gear?
Roughly put, ENCOMPASS (there is no longer a US DECUS, hasn't been for several years)
is a professional Users Group for people running Windows, Unix, and OpenVMS on HP Hardware
(or the older Compaq or DEC HW). Unfortunately I think I got the order of
"importance" listed correctly (well the order in their minds).
Zane
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2:11 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Ok, so what are the benefits of membership besides being able to "legally"
run VMS?
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Does DECUS
serve any broader purpose other than doling out VMS licenses to
hobbyists who want to run old DEC gear?
Roughly put, ENCOMPASS (there is no longer a US DECUS, hasn't been for
several years) is a professional Users Group for people running Windows,
Unix, and OpenVMS on HP Hardware (or the older Compaq or DEC HW).
Unfortunately I think I got the order of "importance" listed correctly
(well the order in their minds).
6:06 p.m.
Does DECUS serve any broader purpose other than doling
out VMS licenses to
hobbyists who want to run old DEC gear?
Roughly put, ENCOMPASS (there is no longer a US DECUS, hasn't been for
several years) is a professional Users Group for people running Windows,
Unix, and OpenVMS on HP Hardware (or the older Compaq or DEC HW).
Unfortunately I think I got the order of "importance" listed correctly
(well the order in their minds).
2:18 p.m.
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 18:34, Antonio Carlini wrote:
I did precisely the same, and attached a footnote fully explaining the
situation, pointing out several times that I was from the UK. I was
welcomed with open arms.
alex/melt
Is that a new
thing, I've been paying (decus) for the last
three years
just for licenses.
Far be it for me to suggest that you cease to support
a fine organisation, but if all you want are the
Hobbyist licences, sign up for associate membership
with the US DECUS, wait for the request to
be granted and then request the licences. Worked
fine for me (in the UK too).
12:30 p.m.
I got a DEC 2000 Alpha server and it is working great!
Useful box: it will run OpenVMS, Digital Unix and Windows NT.
(And it just about meets the 10 year rule :0)
It has VMS 5.2 installed on it and that's where
I'm stuck.
I expect you mean V6.2 (which is about 6-8 years later than
V5.2 and supports on Alpha, which V5.2 does not).
The OpenVMS FAQ will tell you how to break in and change the
password.
Antonio
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2:07 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Van Mersbergen, Ken wrote:
Hey all,
I got a DEC 2000 Alpha server and it is working great!
It has VMS 5.2 installed on it and that's where I'm stuck.
Huh? I didnt
know VMS 5.2 ran on an Alpha... are you *sure*
its an Alpha, and not a VAX 2000 ?
Since I don't have a login user name or password I
can't really do anything
with it.
Is there a way to "hack" VMS so I can get in?
Yeah, although I dont have
that section at hand, there is a
paragraph or two about that in the VMS FAQ.
Or do I just need to reinstall VMS and start from
scratch?
That, of course, is always a better thing to do, assuming you
have all the stuff needed to install it...
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