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8:24 p.m.
11 Nov
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8:41 p.m.
He must have run out of money and not told anyone yet. ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Foust" <jfoust at threedee.com>
To: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: What Sir Clive is up to...
9:21 p.m.
On 11/11/2010 09:24 PM, John Foust wrote:
And this is what he himself is doing :
http://www.sinclairzx.com/spec-x-1.html
Jos
11:30 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jos Dreesen
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:22 PM
To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
On 11/11/2010 09:24 PM, John Foust wrote:
Sinclairs-wife-Lady-Sinclair-sizzles-sun-sexy-beach-calendar-shoot.html
Given the context of the conversation: am I the only one that noted the handlebars adjust
"to accommodate any position"? Maybe that was Lady Sinclair's contribution
to the specification....
Did I really type that out loud? -- Ian
- John
And this is what he himself is doing :
http://www.sinclairzx.com/spec-x-1.html
Jos 
9:29 p.m.
On 11 Nov 2010 at 14:24, John Foust wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1328742/Sir-Clive-Sinclai
rs-wife-Lady-Sinclair-sizzles-sun-sexy-beach-calendar-shoot.html
He still owes me the PCB to my Black Watch kit...
--Chuck
10:11 p.m.
He IS the MAN! :oD
10:29 p.m.
...and of course the lapdancer is only in love with him, and not his
money ;-)
Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
He IS the MAN! :oD
11:06 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at vaxen.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
On 11/11/10 4:29 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
Cheaper to rent then to buy with UK marriage laws I would think (Paul
McCartney anyone?).
...and of course the lapdancer is only in love
with him, and not his
money ;-)
Seriously, would you care?
Doc 
11:07 p.m.
On 11/11/10 5:06 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at vaxen.net>
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
Ah, but then you lose the prestige of ownership....
Doc
On 11/11/10 4:29 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
Cheaper to rent then to buy with UK marriage laws I would think (Paul
McCartney anyone?). ...and of course the lapdancer is only in love
with him, and not his
money ;-)
Seriously, would you care?
Doc
11:27 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Doc Shipley
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:08 PM
To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
On 11/11/10 5:06 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
Cheaper to rent then to buy with UK marriage laws I would think (Paul
McCartney anyone?).
Ah, but then you lose the prestige of ownership....
You know what they say: money can't buy happiness, but you can rent reasonable
substitutes.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at vaxen.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
> On 11/11/10 4:29 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
>> ...and of course the lapdancer is only in love with him, and not
his
money ;-)
Seriously, would you care?
Doc 
11:42 p.m.
On 11/11/2010 4:17 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
That's cause it is never for sale, :)
Ben.
PS. did any of his computers have GOOD I/O storage?
All I can think of cassette or stringy floppy.
...and of
course the lapdancer is only in love with him, and not his
money ;-)
> He IS the MAN! :oD
Sure. Money doesn't buy happiness
(ha ha ha) 
2:47 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
3:04 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
Sorry I kinda rushed this post bu seriously. I don't think this is going to sell..
--- On Fri, 11/12/10, Christian Liendo <christian_liendo at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Christian Liendo <christian_liendo at
yahoo.com>
Subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for ?150,000
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 9:47 AM
http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/11/12/christies-of-london-to-auction-apple-1…
3:14 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150, 000
At 09:04 AM 11/12/2010, Christian Liendo wrote:
Sorry I kinda rushed this post bu seriously. I
don't think this is going to sell..
http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/11/12/christies-of-london-to-auction-apple-1…
> > > >
Wasn't this system on eBay a year or two ago?
- John
10:48 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
I sent a very polite email to the appropriate contact at Christies. I
cc'd Dag Spicer (a curator at the CHM) and Sellam. I explained the
going rates for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired how they priced it
so high.
I'll let the list know what they say in response.
10:54 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
I sent a very polite email to the appropriate contact
at Christies. ?I cc'd
Dag Spicer (a curator at the CHM) and Sellam. ?I explained the going rates
for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired how they priced it so high.
You have no clue about the people you are dealing with. Real money
here, not dot.com money. Christies and Sothebys are different
universes.
--
Will
11:27 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
I sent a very
polite email to the appropriate contact at Christies. I cc'd Dag Spicer (a curator at
the CHM) and Sellam. I explained the going rates for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired
how they priced it so high.
You have no clue about the people you are dealing with.
13 Nov
13 Nov
2:43 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
On 11/12/10 6:27 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Is there an emoticon for "rolls eyes"...?
I know who/what I'm dealing with. Don't insult me.
This is Will...he can't help it. ;)
(sorry Will, I couldn't resist!)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I sent a very polite email to the appropriate contact
at Christies. I
cc'd Dag Spicer (a curator at the CHM) and Sellam. I explained the
going rates for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired how they priced
it so high.
You have no clue about the people you are dealing with. 
15 Nov
15 Nov
12:51 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan at snarc.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for ?150,000
Is there an emoticon for "rolls eyes"...?
I believe so, but I don't think it would work on this list.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
12 Nov
12 Nov
11:31 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
I sent a very
polite email to the appropriate contact at Christies. I cc'd Dag Spicer (a curator at
the CHM) and Sellam. I explained the going rates for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired
how they priced it so high.
You have no clue about the people you are dealing with.
Real money here, not dot.com money. Christies and Sothebys are different universes.
11:38 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:31 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for ?150,000
> I sent a very polite email to the appropriate
contact at Christies. I
cc'd Dag Spicer (a curator at the CHM) and Sellam. I
explained the going
rates for an Apple 1 like this, and I inquired how they priced it so high.
You have no clue about the people you are dealing
with. Real money here,
not dot.com money. Christies and Sothebys are different
universes.
PS - I forgot that Will is the 19th son of an English
lord, and that he
lives on a manor estate, so clearly HE knows better than the rest of us.
It'll go for what it goes for - if a collector is willing to pay that price
for it, then that's what the market price is. I find it amazing that so many
people on this list constantly denigrate others because they can't/won't
accept market forces and believe that every classic computer item should
sell for peanuts because that's all they'd pay.
Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work like that. I sell some stuff
through eBay and other (rarer) items through an auction house myself - the
auction house ALWAYS gets a higher price because the serious collectors are
willing to pay more than the hobbyist market.
Personally, I'd rather see my rare items going to a collector than a
hobbyist - at least even if it's stored away I know it's going to be around
in 20, 50, 100 years instead of at the whims of a single person who may not
be able to guarantee its longevity.
Now I'll wait to get flamed for suggesting that serious, private collectors
are a better option for some equipment than hobbyists.....
Cheers,
Lance
http://www.commodore128.org
11:47 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
It'll go for what it goes for - if a collector is
willing to pay that price for it, then that's what the market price is. I find it
amazing that so many people on this list constantly denigrate others because they
can't/won't accept market forces and believe that every classic computer item
should sell for peanuts because that's all they'd pay.
Hold on. I'm NOT one of those people. I'm trying to HELP the auction
company and their buyers.
Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work like
that.
Thank you for educating me about the "real world" .... clearly you who
know better. (Again, what's the symbol for rolls eyes?)
auction house ALWAYS gets a higher price because the
serious collectors are willing to pay more than the hobbyist market.
Of course. But $160,000 as the STARTING bid for something that
typically sells for less than $25,000?
Now I'll wait to get flamed for suggesting that
serious, private collectors are a better option for some equipment than hobbyists.....
I'm not suggesting that one way or the other.
11:47 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
Personally, I'd rather see my rare items going to
a collector than a
hobbyist - at least even if it's stored away I know it's going to be around
in 20, 50, 100 years instead of at the whims of a single person who may not
be able to guarantee its longevity.
Once something goes through Sothebys or Christies, it is (almost)
immortal. The value of the provenance is very high - something that
almost no private sale or Ebay can match.
That has value. LOTS of value.
--
Will
15 Nov
15 Nov
12:56 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
Agreed. An old Chinese vase (or something very similar) sold for ?63 million
only last week - it was mentioned on the news as it was a new record selling
at Christies. It has the markings of some ancient Chinese dynasty or
something on the bottom, which is why it was/is so valuable.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for ?150,000
Once something goes through Sothebys or Christies, it is (almost)
immortal. The value of the provenance is very high - something that
almost no private sale or Ebay can match.
That has value. LOTS of value.
--
Will
23 Nov
23 Nov
6:51 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
110 thousand pounds / 174 thousand dollars
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11821470
10 p.m.
New subject: Christies of london to auction apple 1 for £150,000
Roger Pugh wrote:
110 thousand pounds / 174 thousand dollars
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11821470
Oddly, I checked Christie's site earlier and they say it sold for 133,250 GBP
- so is the extra 23,250 taxes, listing/handling fees, or something else?
(video somewhat broken on this machine - perhaps it explains it in the news
video clip)
cheers
Jules
21 Nov
21 Nov
4:17 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM, ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
On 11/11/2010 4:17 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas
wrote:
That's cause it is never for sale, :)
Ben.
PS. did any of his computers have GOOD I/O storage?
All I can think of cassette or stringy floppy.
Bundled? No. Even the Amstrad Spectrum +3 had the weird 3" drive and
weird un-Sinclair-like DOS, derived from AMSDOS for the CPC models,
with a kinda-sorta-CP/M like syntax and disk format, completely
incompatible with Sinclair's earlier mass-storage products.
But I had an MGT DISCiPLE on mine. Twin 5?" 780KB drives. Fast,
reliable, an excellent friendly DOS, and both command-line and
hook-code (i.e., API) compatible with Sinclair's own official ZX
Microdrives. Gave me a Centronics parallel printer port and network
ports, too. Lovely bit of kit. A later ROM upgrade even gave me named
sudirectories on floppies, which at the time I thought was /very/
nifty indeed.
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...and of course the lapdancer is only in love with him, and not his
money ;-)
>
> He IS the MAN! :oD
Sure. Money doesn't buy happiness
(ha ha ha)
4:13 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum
<curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote:
...and of course the lapdancer is only in love with
him, and not his money
;-)
As "Mrs Merton" (Caroline Aherne) asked of the new wife of a famous
British magician,
"So, Debbie, what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels?"
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23 Nov
23 Nov
8:56 p.m.
That is a little harsh, but I am a little too young to remember the whole
story. I remember that she was his assistant for a few years, before they
got together. Plus I did have a crush on her.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: What Sir Clive is up to...
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Curt @ Atari Museum
<curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote:
...and of course the lapdancer is only in love with
him, and not his money
;-)
As "Mrs Merton" (Caroline Aherne) asked of the new wife of a famous
British magician,
"So, Debbie, what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels?"
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