7 May
2016
7 May
'16
10:24 p.m.
I got out my Tektronix DAS 9129 logic analyzer mainframe, which uses a
red/green/yellow beam penetration CRT. It uses raster scan, whereas
my other device with a beam penetration CRT, the HP 1338A (also
red/green/yellow) is a vector (X-Y) display.
I'm pleased to find that the 9129 passes self-test and the display
works. Unfortunately I do not have any logic analyzer acquisition or
pattern generator modules for it, so other than admiring the pretty
display, it's only useful as a boat anchor.
8 May
8 May
8:57 a.m.
I thought the Tektronix DAS used a custom tri-color crt, where the
blue phosphor was replaced with yellow.
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
I got out my Tektronix DAS 9129 logic analyzer
mainframe, which uses a
red/green/yellow beam penetration CRT. It uses raster scan, whereas
my other device with a beam penetration CRT, the HP 1338A (also
red/green/yellow) is a vector (X-Y) display.
I'm pleased to find that the 9129 passes self-test and the display
works. Unfortunately I do not have any logic analyzer acquisition or
pattern generator modules for it, so other than admiring the pretty
display, it's only useful as a boat anchor.
9:33 p.m.
On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com> wrote:
I thought the Tektronix DAS used a custom tri-color
crt, where the
blue phosphor was replaced with yellow.
It is custom, and it is tri-color (red, green, yellow), but it's a
beam penetration CRT that is not a modified version of any normal
color CRT. There is no shadow mask, and it can only draw one color per
field, like the 1951 CBS field-sequential color television, though
that was done with a color wheel while this is done by modulating the
anode voltage (and possibly the deflection drive as well).
9 May
9 May
6:45 a.m.
I must be thinking of a different model.
On May 8, 2016 9:33 PM, "Eric Smith" <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Pete Lancashire
<pete at petelancashire.com>
wrote:
I thought the Tektronix DAS used a custom
tri-color crt, where the
blue phosphor was replaced with yellow.
It is custom, and it is tri-color (red, green, yellow), but it's a
beam penetration CRT that is not a modified version of any normal
color CRT. There is no shadow mask, and it can only draw one color per
field, like the 1951 CBS field-sequential color television, though
that was done with a color wheel while this is done by modulating the
anode voltage (and possibly the deflection drive as well).
19 May
19 May
11:18 p.m.
On May 8, 2016 9:33 PM, "Eric Smith" <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote
about the CRT of the color monitor of some models of the Tektronix
DAS 9100 logic analyzer:
It is custom, and it is tri-color (red, green,
yellow), but it's a
beam penetration CRT that is not a modified version of any normal
color CRT. There is no shadow mask, and it can only draw one color per
field, like the 1951 CBS field-sequential color television, though
that was done with a color wheel while this is done by modulating the
anode voltage (and possibly the deflection drive as well).
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com> wrote:
I must be thinking of a different model.
Now that I've looked at volume 1 of the DAS 9100 service manual, I
believe my information was incorrect. Volume 1 is scant on details of
the color monitor, but it does say that the anode voltage is 21kV. If
it was a beam-penetration CRT, it would have to be switched between
different voltages for red and green. (And yellow, if that was
generated with its own phosphor layer rather than as two passes with
red and green.)
The color monitor is manufactured by Tektronix using a CRT also
manufactured by Tektronix. The monochrome version uses a monitor OEM'd
from Motorola.
20 May
20 May
5:27 a.m.
Actually the CRT was built for Tek. but since is was a custom it can
be though of as a Tek CRT. I'm not sure about the monitory assembly,
sometime this year I maybe able to get the full specs on the CRT if
anyone is interested.
-pete Ex Tekkie
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
On May 8, 2016 9:33 PM, "Eric Smith"
<spacewar at gmail.com> wrote
about the CRT of the color monitor of some models of the Tektronix
DAS 9100 logic analyzer:
It is custom, and it is tri-color (red, green,
yellow), but it's a
beam penetration CRT that is not a modified version of any normal
color CRT. There is no shadow mask, and it can only draw one color per
field, like the 1951 CBS field-sequential color television, though
that was done with a color wheel while this is done by modulating the
anode voltage (and possibly the deflection drive as well).
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com>
wrote:
I must be thinking of a different model.
Now that I've looked at volume 1 of the DAS 9100 service manual, I
believe my information was incorrect. Volume 1 is scant on details of
the color monitor, but it does say that the anode voltage is 21kV. If
it was a beam-penetration CRT, it would have to be switched between
different voltages for red and green. (And yellow, if that was
generated with its own phosphor layer rather than as two passes with
red and green.)
The color monitor is manufactured by Tektronix using a CRT also
manufactured by Tektronix. The monochrome version uses a monitor OEM'd
from Motorola.
8 May
8 May
9:45 a.m.
On 05/08/2016 12:24 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I got out my Tektronix DAS 9129 logic analyzer
mainframe, which uses a
red/green/yellow beam penetration CRT. It uses raster scan, whereas
my other device with a beam penetration CRT, the HP 1338A (also
red/green/yellow) is a vector (X-Y) display.
I'm pleased to find that the 9129 passes self-test and the display
works. Unfortunately I do not have any logic analyzer acquisition or
pattern generator modules for it, so other than admiring the pretty
display, it's only useful as a boat anchor.
There is a LOT of Tek logic analyzer gear on eBay. Some of
it goes fairly cheap, the older it is the cheaper.
You can likely find the right acq modules within a month.
The 91xx is REALLY old, too, so should cost more to ship the
modules than the price for the units themselves.
Jon
10:56 a.m.
On May 8, 2016 10:45 AM, "Jon Elson" <elson at pico-systems.com> wrote:
There is a LOT of Tek logic analyzer gear on eBay.
Some of it goes
fairly cheap, the older it is the cheaper.
You can likely find the right acq modules within a
month. The 91xx is
REALLY old, too, so should cost more to ship the modules than
the price for
the units themselves.
The Tektronix DAS 9100 logic analyzer isn't old! Now my HP 5000A logic
analyzer, THAT is old!
:-)
12:11 p.m.
I'm pleased to find that the 9129 passes self-test and the display
works. Unfortunately I do not have any logic analyzer acquisition or
pattern generator modules for it, so other than admiring the pretty
display, it's only useful as a boat anchor.
Surplus Gizmos in Hillsboro Oregon recently had a bunch of Tek 9100
mainframes and parts recently. Last time I visited, a couple of weeks ago,
they had a bunch of Tek 500 and 5000 frames and 2 shelfs of plugins.
http://www.surplusgizmos.com/
No affiliation other than a very happy customer of theirs.
Paxton
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