28 Jan
2002
28 Jan
'02
5:22 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org]
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
Hell,
*everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux!
[[ahem... I have a
dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual
LAN,
etc... so I realize
> this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with
that candy-pants
quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a
computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect
you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions,
or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply.
Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a respectable console
firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at least. Bonus
points if you can't get them to run windows should your life depend on it.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
28 Jan
28 Jan
6:38 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Christopher Smith
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:23 AM
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)
My Athlon may be fixin' to have casters:
http://www.soldam.com/products/prism/index.html Running Windows and
deposit/examine? I guess that part disqualifies me.
--John
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org]
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
Hell,
*everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux!
[[ahem... I have a
dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual
LAN,
etc... so I realize
> this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] You're not gonna impress anyone on this list
with that candy-pants
quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a
computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect
you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions,
or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply.
Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a
respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine"
commands, at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run
windows should your life depend on it.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
12:10 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a
respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands,
at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should
your life depend on it.
Does it count if you can never remember your W2k password? Seems like
I have to reinstall every time i boot to Windows. Wait. *Everybody* has
to do that.
Doc
2:27 p.m.
New subject: Passwords was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)
While passwords may be necessary in a business environment,
they are a real pain to home-based single users or following owners.
I mean, really, I'm in the middle of nowhere in northern Manitoba,
in a house where I live alone with a protective dog, and only hook up
to my ISP when I want to access it. Do I need this ? But even my
NEXT demands a password and I had to do an extensive search to find
out how to re-do the original one. But of course the holy grail of
computer makers is that BIG contract.
I have umpteen passwords in my life including my banks, my ISPs,
E-Pay, and a multitude of others, not to mention phone numbers and
other access code that I must keep track of. Do I really need more to
complicate my life. I thought that that's one of the things that computers
were for. To uncomplicate tasks and processes. On my computers
I DON"T NEED NO STEENKING PASSWORDS.
Windblows is the least of the transgressors. The UNIX type are the worst
since they grew up in a security-conscious business environment.
Right now after going thru a difficult Linux Red-Hat install I can't find the
slip I wrote the password it insists upon, and must do a fresh install.
Fuck it, I'll reformat and look at another OS.
I believe that OS's or programs that don't provide non-password access
should be boycotted.
I have a Grid laptop that I can read the HD of, in a nonprotected
same model, but not in the original, and ISTR Mike Ford had about 6
of them, now virtually worthless. Not battery dependant.
Do these guys really think that passwords can protect their data if
they don't have physical access protection ? We all know that even
supposedly deleted files can be ressurected. This is SUIT mentality
and they live in an imaginary world that they proclaim is the BOTTOM
LINE, realistic view of things. As MS has learned to it's chagrin every
man-made "security" feature can be end-run by some bright young
hacker.
Lawrence
On 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a
respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands,
at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should
your life depend on it.
Does it count if you can never remember your W2k password? Seems like
I have to reinstall every time i boot to Windows. Wait. *Everybody* has
to do that.
Doc
3:04 p.m.
New subject: Passwords was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
While passwords may be necessary in a business
environment,
they are a real pain to home-based single users or following owners.
It can be really annoying that the assumption is that you need to be
protected from others who have physical access to your system; and that
passwords would provide that protection.
I mean, really, I'm in the middle of nowhere in
northern Manitoba,
in a house where I live alone with a protective dog, and only hook up
http://www.xenosoft.com/dogears/idog.jpg
3:26 p.m.
New subject: Passwords was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
Right now after going thru a difficult Linux Red-Hat
install I can't find the
slip I wrote the password it insists upon, and must do a fresh install.
Fuck it, I'll reformat and look at another OS.
I believe that OS's or programs that don't provide non-password access
should be boycotted.
boot:
<kernel-image> single [enter]
(or, if you are using RedHat and such)
<kernel-image> init=/bin/sh [enter]
# mount -w -n -o remount /
# passwd
# mount -r -n -o remount /
# exit
No computer is truly secure if someone has physical access to it.
-Toth
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