In a message dated 10/20/2003 7:42:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jplist(a)kiwigeek.com writes: Tempted. For reasons I won't go into, I've been told that I cannot use a trailor by the person who actually owns the vehicle - I only drive it. Transmissions and various reasons like that. Asides from whether or not I agree or believe this - I'm just trying to make do with what I have. I believe I'll probably put together a pair of sturdy oak ramps, maybe 12" wide, that hook to the bumper of the truck. Then I'll use a winch to pull the IBM up the incline - although I'm not sure yet what to use under the lower end to stop it grating on the ground once its picked up off its casters... Perhaps a skateboard? :) I've moved some heavy things before including an extremely heavy player piano and might be able to off some suggestions. Being able to use a tilt bed trailer is a big help. You can find some low cost tiltbed trailer kits pretty cheaply if you know the capacity of what you're carrying is less or equal to the trailer's. Carpeted furniture dollies are cheap and can take a lot of weight and abuse. get a few of those. As someone said, a come-along is handy for loading or moving up a ramp. There's a thing called a Johnson bar that works great for moving heavy things. it's basically a 6 foot long wooden pry bar with a metal angled end and wheels on one end, so you can lever up something extremely heavy and then move it around because of the wheels. Any rental place should have those. Pallet jacks are nice too. too bad they don't go up higher though. I've seen some companies sell a small motorized lift to raise something like a motorcycle for service. can something like that be rented? If you plan to unload from a pickup's bed, see if there's a ditch or a low spot you can back into to make it lower. barring that, it might be helpful to use whatever you can to make a platform at a height halfway between the truck and the ground so you can manouver onto that first. trying to lower something heavy 2 feet at once is not easy to do.