While we're talking about weird PC clones, today I tried to take
apart an HP Vectra (1986 or so) at my school. I didn't have much
desire to play with it, but it has a fairly odd configuration. It
has a motherboard, and on it, and ISA bus w/cards and two other
cards. One looks like the drive controller but it has a molex
connector attached to it from the PSU. The other card isn't even an
ISA card, and I couldn't get it out. Anyone know how this machine
is arranged?
> An Epson Equity has just as much
"classic" qaulity as an IBM S/34 or
a
> PDP....just in a different category is all, and
smaller. Everyone
gets hung
> into their own niche and it's easy to see
other machines as
"junkers"......
>
> > > At 07:04 PM 11/2/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Yes, but fortunately the starting date doesn't move forwards as
well. In
> > > >other words, OK, some 386 PCs with
custom chips in them are now
classics
> > > >on this list (I have a problem with
saying that, BTW...).
> > >
> > > I tend to agree with you. Discussion of ten-year-old IBM PC
clones
> >
isn't as interesting. Dare I cause a schism by suggesting that
Still though, this may be a good stepping off point to discuss whether
there are any near classic models that will have some appeal. Many
386/486 cpus will flow to the landfill post y2K and it would be a good
idea to get a head start on a personal want list if any qualify.
It might be way early to debate the merits/demerits of Sony PC
products and that shouldn't be the topic. However, there are companies,
some defunct, which might be more interesting than most, many with
lineage to at least the AT and some back to XT days.
So, any unique models or features? ALR? AST? Northgate? Zeos? Everex?
Leading Edge? Anything with a cool LED readout? Plenty of IBM models of
course. Backplane models? Stuff with odd cpu or riser cards?
I've got a Mitsubishi 286 myself with a weird memory card stuck in a
non-ISA slot and seemingly no internal BIOS setup.
Unlike much older classic computers there should be plenty of these for
everybody and anybody. The trick will be to know what you want before
they are cut loose.
The list may be preoccupied with that 10 year discussion limit, but I
don't see preparation for the next wave of material as too off topic.
Remember this isn't just about collecting computers, but actually
saving
models and brands more interesting than average. Better
to be prepared
than kvetch afterward that some model was hot and too bad you can't
find
it nowadays.
I believe this topic has been discussed before, but this time I am
willing to take notes and post a summary about a year from now. Keep
this
note as a reminder and anytime you want to add
something, post it to
the
list if you think we'll all benefit or email me
privately.
So, does anybody want to nominate some weirdo or arcane possibilities?
Would anybody like to go riffle through their complete run of Byte and
cull interesting stuff from the reviews and ads?
-- Stephen Dauphin
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