1 Dec
2014
1 Dec
'14
9:53 p.m.
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused. They're
from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before.
It's clear that they're
hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are
along the outer edge.
There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of these appear to be done
in an attempt to restrict users to a single vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
1 Dec
1 Dec
10:03 p.m.
On 12/1/2014 9:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused.
They're from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear
that they're hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along
the outer edge. There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of
these appear to be done in an attempt to restrict users to a single
vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
Those look suspiciously like floppies for the Memorex 650/651 -- the
first commercially available read/write floppy drive (1972). I just
picked up a 651 myself (mostly because it looks cool, I can only hope to
someday have a machine to use it with...) If you're willing to spare
one of those disks (so I have a matching set) let me know... :).
- Josh
10:12 p.m.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 12/1/2014 9:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Would you like all of them? Got anything interesting to trade?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused. They're
from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear that they're
hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along the outer edge.
There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of these appear to be done
in an attempt to restrict users to a single vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
Those look suspiciously like floppies for the Memorex 650/651 -- the first
commercially available read/write floppy drive (1972). I just picked up a
651 myself (mostly because it looks cool, I can only hope to someday have a
machine to use it with...) If you're willing to spare one of those disks (so
I have a matching set) let me know... :). 
2 Dec
2 Dec
12:09 a.m.
Those type of 8 inch disks are used in the Incoterm series intelligent
terminals. Here is a little bit of information about my Incoterm terminal:
http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/incoterm-spd-20-20
The disks I have are made by Verbatim.
2014-12-02 7:12 GMT+01:00 David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>:
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 12/1/2014 9:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Would you like all of them? Got anything interesting to trade?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused. They're
from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear that they're
hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along the outer edge.
There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of these appear to be done
in an attempt to restrict users to a single vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
Those look suspiciously like floppies for the Memorex 650/651 -- the
first commercially available read/write floppy drive (1972). I just picked
up a 651 myself (mostly because it looks cool, I can only hope to someday
have a machine to use it with...) If you're willing to spare one of those
disks (so I have a matching set) let me know... :).
9:11 p.m.
On 12/1/2014 10:12 PM, David Griffith wrote:
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Josh Dersch wrote:
Hey David -- I sent you a response offline yesterday, didn't hear
anything back. Figured I'd post here just in case it ended up in a spam
filter...
Thanks,
Josh
On 12/1/2014 9:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Would you like all of them? Got anything interesting to trade?
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused.
They're from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear
that they're hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along
the outer edge. There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of
these appear to be done in an attempt to restrict users to a single
vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
Those look suspiciously like floppies for the Memorex 650/651 -- the
first commercially available read/write floppy drive (1972). I just
picked up a 651 myself (mostly because it looks cool, I can only hope
to someday have a machine to use it with...) If you're willing to
spare one of those disks (so I have a matching set) let me know... :).
9:32 p.m.
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Josh Dersch wrote:
Ya, I got it. I'm just stewing over a recruiter that made me waste all of
Tuesday. They told the hiring manager that I was an insurance salesman
with 20 or so years of experience.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
On 12/1/2014 10:12 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Would you like
all of them? Got anything interesting to trade?
Hey David -- I sent you a response offline yesterday, didn't hear anything
back. Figured I'd post here just in case it ended up in a spam filter... 
10:46 p.m.
They might actually be the Memorex 650 media. The 650 media had 8 sector (9
holes) while the 651 media had 32 sectors (33 holes)
See
http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/memorex/disc/2944.010_650floppyOEM.pd
f, Fig 3
Or
http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/memorex/disc/2644.002-01_651Maint_Nov
74.pdf , Fig. 1-5
Or they might be for one of the other early FDD vendors such as Century Data
or Potter, but they really look like the Memorex FDs
With the shipment of IBMs 33FD the indes/sector hole moved to the center as
did the rest of the industry, starting with the Shugart 900 series.
Memorex had enough volume in the early FDDs that third parties such as
Verbatim made compatible media.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Dersch [mailto:derschjo at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 10:04 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Weird 8-inch floppy disk
On 12/1/2014 9:53 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused.
They're from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear
that they're hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along
the outer edge. There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of
these appear to be done in an attempt to restrict users to a single
vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
Those look suspiciously like floppies for the Memorex 650/651 -- the first
commercially available read/write floppy drive (1972). I just picked up a
651 myself (mostly because it looks cool, I can only hope to someday have a
machine to use it with...) If you're willing to spare one of those disks
(so I have a matching set) let me know... :).
- Josh
1 Dec
1 Dec
10:04 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:53 PM, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused. They're
from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear that they're
hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along the outer edge.
There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of these appear to be done
in an attempt to restrict users to a single vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
--
See also:
http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/incoterm-spd-20-20
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Datormusuem/Incoterm/Hard%20se…
10:04 p.m.
David,
I think these might actually be Stamco brand. One of my uncles had a
machine that used a disk that looked like this but unfortunately he
can't remember any of the details. This was back in the mid- to
late-70's, I think and he only had it for a short time as I recall. If
one of us remembers anything more I'll post additional info.
Regards, Brian.
On 12/02/2014 12:53 AM, David Griffith wrote:
I found a ten-pack of 8-inch floppy disks that have me confused.
They're from STAM@, a name I've never heard of before. It's clear
that they're hard-sectored, but the index and sector holes are along
the outer edge. There's also a notch cut into the corner. Both of
these appear to be done in an attempt to restrict users to a single
vendor of floppies.
Here are some pics:
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-front.jpg
http://661.org/images/weird-floppy-back.jpg
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