I'm getting closer to a real PDF file!!! <<<<GROUP 4 FAX TIFF>>>>>>> First, here is my notes on converting an JPG image to a G4 TIF image in Windows: ------ Converting to G4 TIF -------------- In Win95/98/NT, path to follow is: Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Imaging In Win95, the program is called Wang Imaging and is usually found in c:\windows\wangimg.exe. In Win 98, the program is called Kodak Imaging and is usually found in c:\windows\kodakimg.exe. In Win NT, the program is called Wang Imaging and is usually found in c:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\ImageVue\wangimg.exe. Now since I'm running Win98, the following is dealing with Kodak Imaging. After kodakimg.exe starts I load a .JPG file: File -> Open In my example the file is 8.5x11 300dpi 8bit(256 shades) grayscale. Then I copy the file to the scrapbook: Edit -> Copy Page Then I create a NEW image with G4 compression: File -> New *File Type tab - check "TIFF document(TIFF)" *Compression tab - Pull down "Compression" and select "CCITT Group 4 (2d) fax". (This changes the Color tab selection to "Black and White"). *Resolution tab - I set pull down "Resolution" to "300 x 300 dpi". *Size tab - Defaults to 8.5x11 Click "OK" Then I paste the scrapbook image into the NEW image: Edit -> Paste The 8bit gray image is now a bitmap. You can check the image's properties at any time: Page -> Properties Then just save the file: File -> Save As Set the filename and click "Save" --------------------------------------------------- This converted a 2,851KB 8bit JPEG to a 448KB bitmap TIFF file. I can also scan and create multi-page TIFF files with this program. <<<<PDF FILE>>>>>>> Hans turned me onto IMG2PDF for windows (demo version on the Web). But I must have screwed up the installation. It produced a 6 page PDF file but the pages were all blank and the file was 4K in size!! Now I downloaded the demo version of TIF2PDF from the same company (Excel Info Tech, Inc.). The program installed fine and it created a beautiful 6 page PDF file that is 1,669K (Much better that 15MB). The problem is that the demo version inserts "Copyright of Excel Info Tech, Inc." in red across each page of the PDF!!! And for some reason it insert the pages in the order 2,3,4,5,1,6. If I create a three page PDF, it inserts the pages in the order 2,1,3. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================