I have a pair and I'm finally getting around to playing with them. The last time I looked at them, one was missing RAM and had some fans had been removed the other had some cards moved around and generated a config error. 0016600 Adapter error -this is the SCSI controller in view configuration it shows slot one as having a conflict and lists the built-in features. Moving the card to slot2 made no difference. The 2 SCSI cards in the other machine are not the same. One worked but it seemed to hang when configuring SCSI devices. The other cards does not have the right connectors. -- Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 Machines to trade http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600/trade.html Open Source Weekend http://www.osw.ca