29 May
2003
29 May
'03
5:16 a.m.
And it's anti-Christian evolutionism too! ;)
http://crossspot.net/objective/propaganda.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:46 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: OSX
Odd.... Apple hired Jordan Hubbard (lead developer for FreeBSD) to head up
OSX development, and I was quite sure I saw an article where Jordan stated
the kernel and underlying OS was in fact FreeBSD. I'll check into this...
Jay
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29 May
29 May
5:58 a.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
In the what the hell is it category,
I have been given the following items:
Motorola 3261 Codex Modem
3 rj11's, 2 minidin8's, DB25
Motorola SW56-II UDS
1 rj45, 2 DB25's
and
ADtran 2gen TSU
3 rj45's, a 26 pin connector (to T1?)
Are these of any use to me?
Can I use them to replace my 56K modem?
Could I do standalone PPP networking directly
from a phoneline to a10BT hub?
John A.
30 May
30 May
12:33 a.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
On Thu, 29 May 2003, John Allain wrote:
In the what the hell is it category,
I have been given the following items:
Motorola 3261 Codex Modem
3 rj11's, 2 minidin8's, DB25
Motorola SW56-II UDS
1 rj45, 2 DB25's
and
ADtran 2gen TSU
3 rj45's, a 26 pin connector (to T1?)
Are these of any use to me?
Can I use them to replace my 56K modem?
Could I do standalone PPP networking directly
from a phoneline to a10BT hub?
Probably not. They're leased-line modems. The AdTran unit is probably
some sort of CSU for a T-1 as you speculate. Get another one and you can
hook-up your own local T-1 ;)
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1:05 a.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2003, John Allain wrote:
That reminds me... I have a pair of CSU/DSU's for sale, if anybody
wants them.
Dowty Information Systems, manuals included...
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In the what the hell is it category,
I have been given the following items:
Motorola 3261 Codex Modem
3 rj11's, 2 minidin8's, DB25
Motorola SW56-II UDS
1 rj45, 2 DB25's
and
ADtran 2gen TSU
3 rj45's, a 26 pin connector (to T1?)
Are these of any use to me?
Can I use them to replace my 56K modem?
Could I do standalone PPP networking directly
from a phoneline to a10BT hub?
Probably not. They're leased-line modems. The AdTran unit is probably
some sort of CSU for a T-1 as you speculate. Get another one and you can
hook-up your own local T-1 ;)
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6:07 p.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
Get another one and you can hook-up your own local T-1
;)
??
OK, I don't know much about higher speed setups. I know ISDN is kinda
outdated and slow now, but what is currently available at what
speeds/costs and how are they setup? Rather OT I suppose.
But more towards the quote above, what really would be needed to
setup a T1? And how fast IS a T1(something I probably used to know
but forgot a while ago since I don't run across them often)? The
older TSU/CSU/DSU/Whatever-SU's(not only is my memory bad, but I
can't seem to think straight right now!) seem to show up a lot at
surplus stores or in junk piles. Any reasons to grab or avoid them?
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11:22 p.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
John Rollins wrote:
Hi
A T1 is a old telecom digital datastream consisting of 24 ds0 s
A ds0 is a 8 Kbyte serial data stream, ( one simplex audio stream )
so, a T1 is 24 * 8Kbytes/sec = 196.5Kbytes/sec, about 1.5kbits/sec
ADSL or cable are much cheaper and faster, T1 is externally clocked
and will not be blocked, if you are sending continuous data, and the
application requires a unbroken datastream, T1 is the economy way
to go. For any packet traffic it's a waste since your paying for every
bit.
Jim Davis.
Get another
one and you can hook-up your own local T-1 ;)
??
OK, I don't know much about higher speed setups. I know ISDN is kinda
outdated and slow now, but what is currently available at what
speeds/costs and how are they setup? Rather OT I suppose.
But more towards the quote above, what really would be needed to setup
a T1? And how fast IS a T1(something I probably used to know but
forgot a while ago since I don't run across them often)? The older
TSU/CSU/DSU/Whatever-SU's(not only is my memory bad, but I can't seem
to think straight right now!) seem to show up a lot at surplus stores
or in junk piles. Any reasons to grab or avoid them?
11:34 p.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
Jim Davis wrote:
John Rollins wrote:
Hi
A T1 is a old telecom digital datastream consisting of 24 ds0 s
A ds0 is a 8 Kbyte serial data stream, ( one simplex audio stream )
so, a T1 is 24 * 8Kbytes/sec = 196.5Kbytes/sec, about 1.5kbits/sec
ADSL or cable are much cheaper and faster, T1 is externally clocked
and will not be blocked, if you are sending continuous data, and the
application requires a unbroken datastream, T1 is the economy way
to go. For any packet traffic it's a waste since your paying for every
bit.
Jim Davis.
oops, i ment about 1.5 Megabits/sec
Get
another one and you can hook-up your own local T-1 ;)
??
OK, I don't know much about higher speed setups. I know ISDN is kinda
outdated and slow now, but what is currently available at what
speeds/costs and how are they setup? Rather OT I suppose.
But more towards the quote above, what really would be needed to
setup a T1? And how fast IS a T1(something I probably used to know
but forgot a while ago since I don't run across them often)? The
older TSU/CSU/DSU/Whatever-SU's(not only is my memory bad, but I
can't seem to think straight right now!) seem to show up a lot at
surplus stores or in junk piles. Any reasons to grab or avoid them?
31 May
31 May
2:51 a.m.
New subject: SemiOT: Network HW items
On Fri, 30 May 2003, John Rollins wrote:
OK, I don't know much about higher speed setups. I
know ISDN is kinda
outdated and slow now, but what is currently available at what
speeds/costs and how are they setup? Rather OT I suppose.
But more towards the quote above, what really would be needed to
setup a T1? And how fast IS a T1(something I probably used to know
but forgot a while ago since I don't run across them often)? The
older TSU/CSU/DSU/Whatever-SU's(not only is my memory bad, but I
can't seem to think straight right now!) seem to show up a lot at
surplus stores or in junk piles. Any reasons to grab or avoid them?
The only use for such devices would be to create a point-to-point T1
connection between two structures where the distance between them is too
for for a standard 10/100baeT cable run. In that case, you would also
need routers on each end that have a T1 interface.
It would be fun to play with if you can gather up all the necessary
equipment.
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