10 Sep
2011
10 Sep
'11
5:31 a.m.
For my first 4 years with E-mail I was only on DECNET/HEPNET.
So DECNET style E-mail addresses for me (TDS222 at IOWA
and TSHOPPA at FNALF).
Later on, some of my BITNET E-mail addresses from
the 80's and early 90's are found when I google
myself. Some of these were on the same VAXes
via BITNET gateways, others were on
PRIMOS machines on BITNET, a couple were
genuinely on IBM hardware and then later
Amdahl hardware. I really struggled with
the IBM user interfaces :-).
I did use UUCP forwarding on several occasions
but I never thought of the bang-path
as "my E-mail address".
Amazingly enough several of the
LISTSERV's that I subscribed to/posted to
back in the 80's still exist today in one form
or another. Some were surprisingly hard
to find but they're still there.
10 Sep
10 Sep
1:47 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Shoppa, Tim <tshoppa at wmata.com> wrote:
I did use UUCP forwarding on several occasions
but I never thought of the bang-path
as "my E-mail address".
This is a good point. I hadn't thought of it that way. My first
Internet email address was at UIUC in 1991:
jht(something)(a)uxa.cso.uiuc.edu. (I actually saw the uxa machine
once...I believe it was a Sequent.) After my short time there ended I
attended a local community college in 1992. They were still on a UUCP
connection that dialed up via modem every 20 minutes. My address
there was a hybrid, something like harper!timmoja at uunet.uu.net. It
must have been a transition period. I'm not certain if it could have
been addressed with pure bang paths or not. I am proud to have "been
there" at the tail end of an era, though.
Many hours were spent doing FTP by email in those college labs (full
of Hazeltine terms and IBM PS/2s.) Send a command to a gateway, get
your directory listing 20+ min later. Send a request...hope you
spelled it all right...wait 20min. No wonder I never finished school
:)
--
jht
1:54 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
connection that dialed up via modem every 20 minutes.
?My address
there was a hybrid, something like harper!timmoja at uunet.uu.net. ?It
Thanks to Google, I found an old post that showed the addresses. It
took the form of the one above, but also the address
"timmonja at harper.uucp", so there was some other kind of hybird
address.
One of my favorite O'Reilly book titles is the one that's hard to Google for:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565920460.do
Lots of interesting Internet history there.
--
jht
5:50 p.m.
On 10/09/2011 21:54, Jason T wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jason T <silent700
at gmail.com> wrote:
> connection that dialed up via modem every 20 minutes. My address
> there was a hybrid, something like harper!timmoja at uunet.uu.net. It
My first email address was in 1982 on Telecom Gold, which was British
Telecom's version of ITT Dialcom, an X.400 service. I can't remember
the original address, which is a pity because I remember it was a really
low number, but a few years later it got changed to MAG1001. I didn't
get an Internet address until ten years later, and until then I used
Telecom Gold and gateways, usually via Packet SwitchStream (X.25 dialup).
One of my favorite O'Reilly book titles is the one
that's hard to Google for:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565920460.do
I still have my copy of that :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
6:40 p.m.
On 2011 Sep 10, at 5:50 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
On 10/09/2011 21:54, Jason T wrote:
That wouldn't have been an X.400 service in 1982 - too early - perhaps
they switched to X.400 or developed an X.400 gateway to an existing
system/network some years later.
I worked on what was recognised quite widely as one of the first two
X.400 systems. The other project was at KDD in Japan. Both projects
began in 1982, unknown to each other. In 1984 we both became aware of
the other and in early 1985 we interconnected the two, the first
interconnection of two independantly-developed X.400 systems. (Sheesh.
Kind of sounds like the plot to "Colossus: The Forbin Project".)
It was a good number of years later before any of the PTTs were in any
position to offer an X.400 service.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jason T
<silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
> connection that dialed up via modem every 20 minutes. My address
> there was a hybrid, something like harper!timmoja at uunet.uu.net. It
My first email address was in 1982 on Telecom Gold, which was British
Telecom's version of ITT Dialcom, an X.400 service. I can't remember
the original address, which is a pity because I remember it was a
really low number, but a few years later it got changed to MAG1001. I
didn't get an Internet address until ten years later, and until then I
used Telecom Gold and gateways, usually via Packet SwitchStream (X.25
dialup).
11 Sep
11 Sep
2:40 a.m.
On 11/09/2011 02:40, Brent Hilpert wrote:
Not on day one of course, but it became X.400 sometime in mid 80s.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On 2011 Sep 10, at 5:50 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
My first email
address was in 1982 on Telecom Gold, which was British
Telecom's version of ITT Dialcom, an X.400 service. I can't remember
the original address, which is a pity because I remember it was a
really low number, but a few years later it got changed to MAG1001. I
didn't get an Internet address until ten years later, and until then I
used Telecom Gold and gateways, usually via Packet SwitchStream (X.25
dialup).
That wouldn't have been an X.400 service in 1982 
13 Sep
13 Sep
2:42 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
I started fiddling with UUCP in 1985 and over the years, as various entities
handled the connections on our end of the backbone, I had several bang-path
addresses, first to work, then later to my Amiga 1000 running UUCP, then by
the early 1990s, that was all hidden behind .uucp aliases as the world turned
to simple user at foo.com addresses in their mail agents.
I had a couple of different paths to my Amiga, as the nature of hobbyist
UUCP connectivity changed between 1988 and 1996...
...!ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!giza!kumiss!erd or erd at kumiss.uucp
...ihnp4!cbosgd!n8emr!uncle!jcnpc!kumiss!erd or erd at kumiss.cmhnet.org
(the machine in that chain called "jcnpc" became the seed for the ISP
"Infinet" (not Infi.net) that was later bought by the ISP Voyager that is
now owned by Corecom - for the curious, it was an i386 "PC" owned by
"jcn",
one of our groups naming conventions. It happened to be running
Interactive SysV UNIX, which a few list members might remember).
Here's my contribution to a 10-year-old discussion on UUCP with more
details and trivia...
http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2001-June/227217.html
-ethan
...My address
there was a hybrid, something like harper!timmoja at uunet.uu.net...
... also the
address "timmonja at harper.uucp" 
10 Sep
10 Sep
2:01 p.m.
On 10 Sep 2011 at 15:47, Jason T wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Shoppa, Tim
<tshoppa at wmata.com>
wrote: > I did use UUCP forwarding on several occasions > but I never
thought of the bang-path > as "my E-mail address".
I think I still have some UUCP email files kicking around, but for
the life of me, I don't remember what I used as an email address.
I'll have to look one of these days.
--CHuck
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