12 Oct
2003
12 Oct
'03
8:57 a.m.
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran across a Diamond Stealth 64
PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
connector.
The chipset is an S3 Vision968.
Anyone that's interested can have it for the cost of shipping.
g.
13 Oct
13 Oct
4:05 a.m.
Gene Buckle wrote:
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran across a Diamond Stealth 64
PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
connector.
The chipset is an S3 Vision968.
Anyone that's interested can have it for the cost of shipping.
g.
I wonder, was that in a Mac computer? IIRC, that's what Mac monitors
use to have...
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6:47 a.m.
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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:05 AM
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Gene Buckle wrote:
There was a mac board made by diamond called the Javelin (Javelin video
30000) that fits this description. What does the bios chip say on it?
I have one of these video boards but somebody replaced the bios chip so that
its pc compatible and I cant use it on my powermac.
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran across a Diamond Stealth 64
PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
connector.
The chipset is an S3 Vision968.
Anyone that's interested can have it for the cost of shipping.
g.
I wonder, was that in a Mac computer? IIRC, that's what Mac monitors
use to have...
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--- Dave Woyciesjes
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7:27 a.m.
There was a mac board made by diamond called the Javelin (Javelin video
30000) that fits this description. What does the bios chip say on it?
I have one of these video boards but somebody replaced the bios chip so that
its pc compatible and I cant use it on my powermac.
From memory, I think it reads "Stealth64"
with a version number of 2.07.
The label is green.
g.
10:56 a.m.
Gene Buckle wrote:
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran across a
Diamond Stealth 64
PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
connector.
DA15 (instead of DE15) was commonly used for some Apple monitors.
PCI made it possible to physically insert Apple PCI cards into PC PCI bus,
and vice versa.
The local humane society had a donated PC with such a video card that
they were using for record keeping of their vet hospital. Their "vertical
market solutions" vendor insisted on selling them an entire IBM computer,
"because that one with the weird video connector is too weird!"
11:58 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting video board....free!
Gene Buckle wrote:
Just because the mac went to PCI doesnt mean that any pci card could be used
in a mac. The card would have to have firmware that told the mac what to do
with it, and then drivers/software for it to work with the OS.
Most venders dont want to mess or support other platforms or hardware that
isnt their specialty (especially when they can sell you more hardware to
replace it).
I think most of the diamond cards for the mac were re-rommed for the PC and
sold off into the aftermarket clearence houses who probably sold them with
mac monitors or just mav to vga adapters. Diamonf never sold many if any
cards o the mac crowd.
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran
across a Diamond Stealth 64
PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
connector.
DA15 (instead of DE15) was commonly used for some Apple monitors.
PCI made it possible to physically insert Apple PCI cards into PC PCI bus,
and vice versa.
The local humane society had a donated PC with such a video card that
they were using for record keeping of their vet hospital. Their "vertical
market solutions" vendor insisted on selling them an entire IBM computer,
"because that one with the weird video connector is too weird!"
12:40 p.m.
> Gene Buckle wrote:
> > In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran across a Diamond Stealth 64
> > PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full size 15
> > pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15 pin d-sub
> > connector.
>
> DA15 (instead of DE15) was commonly used for some Apple monitors.
> PCI made it possible to physically insert Apple PCI cards into PC PCI bus,
> and vice versa.
>
> The local humane society had a donated PC with such a video card that
> they were using for record keeping of their vet hospital. Their "vertical
> market solutions" vendor insisted on selling them an entire IBM computer,
> "because that one with the weird video connector is too weird!"
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, TeoZ wrote:
Just because the mac went to PCI doesnt mean that any
pci card could be used
in a mac. The card would have to have firmware that told the mac what to do
with it, and then drivers/software for it to work with the OS.
That is why I said,
"made it possible to physically insert . . ."
This was a functioning system, with all the right cabling, drivers, etc.
Most venders dont want to mess or support other
platforms or hardware that
isnt their specialty (especially when they can sell you more hardware to
replace it).
This vendor wanted to make the hardware sale. Enough to blame "that weird
video" for modem and CD-ROm problems in his software.
(Even after they made the hardware sale of complete system, they still
never got their [software] system to run right)
I think most of the diamond cards for the mac were
re-rommed for the PC and
sold off into the aftermarket clearence houses who probably sold them with
mac monitors or just mav to vga adapters. Diamonf never sold many if any
cards o the mac crowd.
That sounds about right - it was probably a Mac board, but it had PC
compatible ROM and Windoze drivers.
4:09 p.m.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, David Woyciesjes wrote:
Gene Buckle wrote:
In cleaning out some of my old stuff, I ran
across a Diamond Stealth
64 PCI VGA card. What makes it interesting is that it's got a full
size 15 pin d-sub connector instead of the 9 pin size, high density 15
pin d-sub connector.
The chipset is an S3 Vision968.
Anyone that's interested can have it for the cost of shipping.
I wonder, was that in a Mac computer? IIRC, that's what Mac monitors use
to have... From the description, it is a Mac version of what used
to be a very common
PCI video card. The only differences that I'm aware of are
the BIOS and a
slight change to the PC board where the video output connector is located.
Diamond branded boards and S3 chipset based boards are still on my
want-list in case anyone else comes across such things...
-Toth
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