2 Jun
2004
2 Jun
'04
3:28 p.m.
From: "Don Maslin" <donm(a)cts.com>
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Frank Smith wrote:
> --On Wednesday, June 02, 2004 13:22:39 -0400 Damien Cymbal
<d_cymbal(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are hard sectored 8" floppies of any use to anyone? I've got several
boxes
of still shrink-wrapped SSSD hard sector disks. I've sold a couple boxes
on
epay, but action on them was lower than I'd imagined. Some folks who resell
alot of 8" floppies
> > told me "good luck" because hard
sectored just don't sell.
> >
> > I've seen new soft sectored disks advertised online for fairly hefty prices
(don't know if they are selling at that price or not). What systems made use of
these? Any that I might own or want to own some day that it'd be worth me
holding on to these
> > if I can't sell them for a price worth it
to drive to the post office and
ship them?
>
> I'd be willing to buy a box or two of them to use in my Altair floppy drives
if
they are 32
sector floppies.
Frank
To the best of my knowledge, all 8" hard sectored disk are 32
sector. The only difference is between the 'normal' hard sector
arrangement where the sector holes encircle the hub hole, whereas
the 'Vydec' compatible disks have the sector holes around the
periphery. They are not common, however.
- don
2 Jun
2 Jun
8:15 p.m.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
Hi Don
I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
Dwight
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be a surprise to 3M!
- don
From: "Don
Maslin" <donm(a)cts.com>
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Frank Smith wrote:
> --On Wednesday, June 02, 2004 13:22:39 -0400 Damien Cymbal
<d_cymbal(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Are hard sectored 8" floppies of any use to anyone? I've got several
boxes
of still shrink-wrapped SSSD hard sector disks. I've sold a couple boxes
on
epay, but action on them was lower than I'd imagined. Some folks who resell
alot of 8" floppies
> > told me "good luck" because
hard sectored just don't sell.
> >
> > I've seen new soft sectored disks advertised online for fairly hefty prices
(don't know if they are selling at that price or not). What systems made use
of
these? Any that I might own or want to own some day that it'd be worth me
holding on to these
> > if I can't sell them for a price
worth it to drive to the post office and
ship them?
>
> I'd be willing to buy a box or two of them to use in my Altair floppy drives
if
they are
32 sector floppies.
Frank
To the best of my knowledge, all 8" hard sectored disk are 32
sector. The only difference is between the 'normal' hard sector
arrangement where the sector holes encircle the hub hole, whereas
the 'Vydec' compatible disks have the sector holes around the
periphery. They are not common, however.
- don
3 Jun
3 Jun
11:08 a.m.
> I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard
sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Don Maslin wrote:
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be a
surprise to 3M!
Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
11:09 a.m.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
Stringy floppy?
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> I'm
almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Don Maslin wrote:
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be
a surprise to 3M!
Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
11:34 a.m.
> > > I'm almost sure I've seen a 16
hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
> > I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be a surprise to 3M!
> Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
> me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
> available from 3M!
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Stringy floppy?
I never liked that Exatron device.
Imagine a room full of TRS-80s (model I), with students learning
Electric Pencil, and yelling for help every time the drive acted
up.
I don't think that 3M ever made 3.25" (Dysan and Brown)
or 3.25" floppies.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
12:16 p.m.
Rumor has it that Fred Cisin may have mentioned these words:
I don't think they made 2.8" floppies, either. Dunno what else used 'em,
but at least one model of Tandy word processor used 'em.
And what about 2" floppies - as in the Zenith Minisport?[1] I know Fuji
made some, but did 3M kick some in?
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] And yes, I still wanna hook one of those rascals internal to one of my
CoCos... ;-)
--
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Celeronville!"
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> > >
I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
> > I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be a surprise to 3M!
> Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
> me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
> available from 3M!
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Stringy floppy?
[snip] I don't think that 3M ever made 3.25" (Dysan and Brown)
or 3.25" floppies.
1:53 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
Well, I certainly find no reference to that size in their
Diskette Reference Manual - nor to 3.0" either.
- don
> > >
I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
> > I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be a surprise to 3M!
> Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
> me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
> available from 3M!
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Stringy floppy?
I never liked that Exatron device.
Imagine a room full of TRS-80s (model I), with students learning
Electric Pencil, and yelling for help every time the drive acted
up.
I don't think that 3M ever made 3.25" (Dysan and Brown)
or 3.25" floppies. --
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
12:09 p.m.
At 01:08 PM 6/3/04 -0700, Grumpy Ol' Fred wrote:
Let's see; IBM, Tektronix, Verbatim, Memorex, Digital, Maxell, Intel,
Centech, Radio Shack, Data Systems. That's just some that I have laying
around the house.
Joe
> I'm
almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Don Maslin wrote:
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be
a surprise to 3M!
Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
2:02 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Joe R. wrote:
At 01:08 PM 6/3/04 -0700, Grumpy Ol' Fred wrote:
Let's see; IBM, Tektronix, Verbatim, Memorex, Digital, Maxell, Intel,
Centech, Radio Shack, Data Systems. That's just some that I have laying
around the house.
I doubt Digital, Intel and Tektronix made their own floppies. They're
just branded with their stickers.
--
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>
I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Don Maslin wrote:
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be
a surprise to 3M!
Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
2:13 p.m.
Although I do
not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
Let's see; IBM, Tektronix, Verbatim, Memorex, Digital, Maxell, Intel,
Centech, Radio Shack, Data Systems. That's just some that I have laying
around the house.
4:20 p.m.
At 04:02 PM 6/3/04 -0700, you wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Joe R. wrote:
Ah, I was wondering when somebody would come up with that. The subject
was what disks were AVAILABLE, not who made them. FWIW I doubt RS, Centech
and a lot of the big companies made their own either.
Joe
At 01:08 PM 6/3/04 -0700, Grumpy Ol' Fred
wrote:
Let's see; IBM, Tektronix, Verbatim, Memorex, Digital, Maxell, Intel,
Centech, Radio Shack, Data Systems. That's just some that I have laying
around the house.
I doubt Digital, Intel and Tektronix made their own floppies. They're
just branded with their stickers. >
I'm almost sure I've seen a 16 hard sectored 8 inch disk someplace.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Don Maslin wrote:
I suppose that is possible, Dwight, but it may be
a surprise to 3M!
Although I do not have any examples handy, it would not surprise
me at all to find out that there exist SOME media that weren't
available from 3M!
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