25 Jul
2002
25 Jul
'02
11:49 a.m.
Two things of note:
There is a warehouse in Northern New Jersey I am currently cleaning out
with lots of Teletypes in all shapes, sizes, and flavors. There are old
types, "new" types, 5 level, 8 level, probably some Kleinschmidts and
Seimens, paper tape readers, repeaters, test sets, even some of the weird
wall-mount Teletypes. And parts - thousands of parts, many never used,
still in the wrappings. Many of these units are military surplus, some
from World War 2.
Prices are right - most of it can be had for a cold beverage. It all has
to go, and the scrap metal dumpster is calling.
Contact me off list for details. I can not ship anything - it is all
pick-up only. Hours are mostly Monday thru Friday 10 thru 5-ish, although
if you think you will take bunches of the stuff, Saturday *may* be an
option. There is a loading dock.
(if someone could post this to the Greenkeys list, that would be great)
In other news...
Somehow between days of backbreaking warehouse work in the Garden State, I
need to pick up a big old Univac 9300 soon. Loading should not be a
problem, but I may need a hand at my house, unloading, in Carmel, NY (that
is near Danbury, CT). Pizza and beer on me. Any takers?
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
25 Jul
25 Jul
1:06 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more)
I would like to add that things are pretty much going to be
first-come-first-served at the warehouse. Also, I have no inventory of
what is there - just the experience of digging thru the piles. If you
want, please ask about the availablitity of anything, but just don't
quote me on it...
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
1:21 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more)
William -
I'd like to snag some of the gear, if possible. I'll be in Lyndhurst (near
the NJ Meadowlands) on Monday and Tuesday -- any chance I could stop
by? Do you think there'll be much left by then?
Thanks!
-- Tony
At 09:04 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I would like to add that things are pretty much going
to be
first-come-first-served at the warehouse. Also, I have no inventory of
what is there - just the experience of digging thru the piles. If you
want, please ask about the availablitity of anything, but just don't
quote me on it...
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
1:31 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more)
Replied to the list again -- sorry...
Sheesh! Now I've made it worse by replying to my reply!
I feel like the Knights Who Say Ni! "Don't say it! Now I've said
it! I've said it again!"
-- Tony
At 09:19 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, you wrote:
William -
I'd like to snag some of the gear, if possible. I'll be in Lyndhurst
(near the NJ Meadowlands) on Monday and Tuesday -- any chance I could stop
by? Do you think there'll be much left by then?
Thanks!
-- Tony
At 09:04 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I would like to add that things are pretty much
going to be
first-come-first-served at the warehouse. Also, I have no inventory of
what is there - just the experience of digging thru the piles. If you
want, please ask about the availablitity of anything, but just don't
quote me on it...
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
30 Jul
30 Jul
2:07 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
For the record, one known 33 is left (other than the new one). This may
change - even today a 33 was uncovered in a place I was not aware of.
There still are 35s. In fact, no one has expressed interest in them yet
(oddly).
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
2:22 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
William Donzelli wrote:
For the record, one known 33 is left (other than the
new one). This may
change - even today a 33 was uncovered in a place I was not aware of.
There still are 35s. In fact, no one has expressed interest in them yet
(oddly).
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
I am kind of looking for a serial paper tape reader and punch,
but not at e-bay prices. Just what is a model 35?
6:03 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, William Donzelli wrote:
There still are 35s.
Am I correct in assuming that these are about twice as wide as a 33?
Am I correct in assuming that these would be much more difficult and
expensive to ship UPS?
--
Jeffrey Sharp
2:20 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, William Donzelli wrote:
For the record, one known 33 is left (other than the
new one). This may
change - even today a 33 was uncovered in a place I was not aware of.
There still are 35s. In fact, no one has expressed interest in them yet
(oddly).
Yes, much more fun to watch printing than 33's, with their rectangular
character matrix selection. Somehow the name 'stunt box' comes to mind when
thinking about 35s, dont remember why...
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
5:55 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, William Donzelli wrote:
For the record, one known 33 is left (other than the
new one). This may
change - even today a 33 was uncovered in a place I was not aware of.
There still are 35s. In fact, no one has expressed interest in them yet
(oddly).
I would absolutely love one but my budget is strained currently so having
one shipped is out of the question.
I think the problem is lack of recognition. If more people saw just how
cool an ASR-35 is they would probably want one.
To that end, there is a picture of one here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rimmer/cpics/35asr.gif
...and here:
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~verts/things/things.html
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6:11 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
That did it for me were are these 35's and can I make the drive there in one
day from Houston Texas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Teletypes (more update)
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, William Donzelli wrote:
Festival
For the record, one known 33 is left (other than
the new one). This may
change - even today a 33 was uncovered in a place I was not aware of.
There still are 35s. In fact, no one has expressed interest in them yet
(oddly).
I would absolutely love one but my budget is strained currently so having
one shipped is out of the question.
I think the problem is lack of recognition. If more people saw just how
cool an ASR-35 is they would probably want one.
To that end, there is a picture of one here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rimmer/cpics/35asr.gif
...and here:
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~verts/things/things.html
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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http://www.vintage.org
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1:02 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
That's one day there and one day back plus one to load up and rest. A three
day trip.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Teletypes (more update)
> That did it for me were are these 35's and
can I make the drive there in
one
day from
Houston Texas?
One day?!!???!!!!
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
3:11 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Keys wrote:
That's one day there and one day back plus one to
load up and rest. A three
day trip.
Man, it can be done. Realistcally, you can probably get there in abot
22-26 hours. But that's gonna be straight-through, hammer-down hauling
butt. I did Lubbock to Groton, Connecticutt and back in about 80 hours
once, so it's possible. It's also pure insanity.
Have a nice trip. :)
Doc
3:38 p.m.
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that's gonna be straight-through, hammer-down
hauling...
It's also pure insanity. Have a nice trip. :)
Slogan on manufacturer's videotape:
"The Porsche 928s. A realistic alternative to Air travel."
(Top speed 156 MPH)
Seriously, I can go back to the warehouse with a DigiCam
if there are serious inquiries, to offer you a window in there
via teleprescence. William says there are some pics available
now too.
John A.
4:04 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, John Allain wrote:
Oh. Never mind. I had envisioned something big enough to _haul_ a
teletype.
The last 150mph car I had was a '68 Charger with a TRW 383 and no
brakes to speak of. I still miss it.
Ever notice how many sysadmin/geek types are also into serious
horsepower?
Doc
that's
gonna be straight-through, hammer-down hauling...
It's also pure insanity. Have a nice trip. :)
Slogan on manufacturer's videotape:
"The Porsche 928s. A realistic alternative to Air travel."
(Top speed 156 MPH) 
1 Aug
1 Aug
3:28 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
"The
Porsche 928s. A realistic alternative to Air travel."
(Top speed 156 MPH)
Oh. Never mind. I had envisioned something big enough
to _haul_ a
teletype. The last 150mph car I had was a '68 Charger with
a TRW 383 and no
brakes to speak of. I still miss it.
Ever notice how many sysadmin/geek types are also into serious
horsepower?
You can fit almost anything that you want into a 57 chevy wagon.
3:37 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 16:27, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
You can fit almost anything that you want into a 57
chevy wagon.
What about another '57 Chevvy wagon?
--
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
3:47 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
At 04:34 PM 8/1/2002 +0100, you wrote:
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 16:27, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)
wrote:
Maybe, if you crushed it first... :-)
You can fit almost anything that you want into a
57 chevy wagon.
What about another '57 Chevvy wagon? --
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
9:57 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On 1 Aug 2002, Alex White wrote:
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 16:27, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)
wrote:
1) I did say "almost anything"
2) While not "in", it can certainly pull it.
You can fit almost anything that you want into a
57 chevy wagon.
What about another '57 Chevvy wagon?
4:53 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
It has a roof, doesn't it?
OB_CC1: I once transported two people and five DTC300s (on their
stands) with a Honda Civic (and some rope)
OB_CC2: The DTC300 did 132 characters per line, and used a 4004.
Didnt it use cards that are kind of the beginning of the STD bus? ISTR that
the 4004 processor card was made by PROLOG...
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
"The Porsche 928s. A realistic alternative to
Air travel."
(Top speed 156 MPH)
Oh. Never mind. I had envisioned something big enough
to _haul_ a
teletype. The last 150mph car I had was a '68 Charger
with a TRW 383 and no
brakes to speak of. I still miss it.
Ever notice how many sysadmin/geek types are also into serious
horsepower?
You can fit almost anything that you want into a 57 chevy wagon.
10:53 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
That's one day there and one day back plus one to
load up and rest. A three
day trip.
I have done the trip - I think it is something like 1200 miles each way.
I am a "marathon" driver, and can do 900 miles a day if fresh, but 1200
is just too much.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
2 Aug
2 Aug
6:54 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
I think it may be more than 1200 miles as that's close to the distance from
Houston and the Twincities (MN) and I drive that in 19 to 22 hours without a
load. On return trips with a full 26 footer it's about 32 hours, with the
longest taking 37 hours with rest stops. If I can work out a meet with
someone to shorten the drive I may go but if not I will have to pass.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Teletypes (more update)
> That's one day there and one day back plus
one to load up and rest. A
three
day trip.
I have done the trip - I think it is something like 1200 miles each way.
I am a "marathon" driver, and can do 900 miles a day if fresh, but 1200
is just too much.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
1:40 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
I did Madison WI--Houston TX in a 26 footer a long time ago. Some
sixteen hours, I seem to recall. Very tiresome. I don't
want to ever do that again.
carlos.
At 01:52 PM 8/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
I think it may be more than 1200 miles as that's
close to the distance from
Houston and the Twincities (MN) and I drive that in 19 to 22 hours without a
load. On return trips with a full 26 footer it's about 32 hours, with the
longest taking 37 hours with rest stops. If I can work out a meet with
someone to shorten the drive I may go but if not I will have to pass.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Teletypes (more update)
> I have done the trip - I think it is something like 1200 miles each way.
> I am a "marathon" driver, and can do 900 miles a day if fresh, but 1200
> is just too much.
>
> William Donzelli
> aw288(a)osfn.org
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Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
3 Aug
3 Aug
4:14 a.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more update)
My offer's still open, if you're interested...
-- Tony
At 01:52 PM 8/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I think it may be more than 1200 miles as that's
close to the distance from
Houston and the Twincities (MN) and I drive that in 19 to 22 hours without a
load. On return trips with a full 26 footer it's about 32 hours, with the
longest taking 37 hours with rest stops. If I can work out a meet with
someone to shorten the drive I may go but if not I will have to pass.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Teletypes (more update)
> That's one day there and one day back
plus one to load up and rest. A
three
> > day trip.
>
> I have done the trip - I think it is something like 1200 miles each way.
> I am a "marathon" driver, and can do 900 miles a day if fresh, but 1200
> is just too much.
>
> William Donzelli
> aw288(a)osfn.org
>
25 Jul
25 Jul
2:37 p.m.
New subject: Teletypes (more more)
Here are some answers to some common questions I have been getting:
Pricing is damn good. Basically, all parts, even new, are free. I might
actually *make* you take more than you need. Some of the Teletypes have a
price tag - World War 2 TG-7s and MITEs will be market priced, 33s and 35s
will be cheap (no Ebay prices here - probably free to $25), most others
will actually cost you a cold beverage (the building has no water
currently so *cold* drinks are most welcome) or two. Some of the more
interesting Teletype doodads will also be in the free to cheap range (more
free than cheap).
The other junk in the warehouse (_no_ digital computer stuff, folks, so
don't expect any PDP things) will actually cost money. I am far more
interested at this point, however, in making the Teletype stuff
disappear. If you come for Teletypes, certainly you can look around,
however.
I will need to have a few days notice, as I would like to give the
building owners some warning that I will be having guests. Next week, or
the week after, are probably good times - Mondays thru Fridays, business
hours, in Paterson, NJ (bring a baseball bat and leave your expensive car
in the garage). You will get dirty.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
26 Jul
26 Jul
4:53 a.m.
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Teletypes in New Jersey, and I am in Boston. Damn.
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