Doug: I got the Mac services working. Apparently it wasn't a problem on the Mac side. The one item that the NT manual left out is that the directory in which the UAM volume resides has to be shared and have the permissions set. I found a Web page dealing with this setup. So, when I shared the directory on the NT Server, the directory was visible by the Mac client. All machines are on the same subnet. The NT Services for Mac is set with routing enabled because there are no other Mac servers on the net. This is per the SFM docs. Thoughts? Now, I need to get printing working. I have a PS laser printer connected to the server. Is shared printing a possiblity? I was having all sorts of problems at this point. In the MacTCP control panel, I would only have LocalTalk and no Ethernet. I rebooted and reinstalled from the Network Installer disk and then the Asante disk. Then, EtherTalk appeared. Originally, in the Chooser, when I selected AppleShare, no zones showed-up (which was fixed by the above). I've been using TransMac to move disk images to the ci. Moving them across the network doesn't work because the type/creator information is not moved. As far as I can tell, neither TransMac or HFV work with remote (network) drives, so I can't get their translation benefits. Also, using a null-modem setup doesn't transfer the credtor information. So, the transferred programs are not usable. So, I've been relying on TransMac 4.1c which works well. I'm making images of System 7.5.3 plus the update. I also want to get Web access on that machine. I've got a simple browser, an email and telnet program moved over, but I have to work on the broadband access. I have a cable modem connected to a NAT firewall. All internal machines are on the same subnet with the firewall (192.168.1.x). Could you make me a BinHex or SEA image of the 3.6.4 client disk? Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:26 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: AppleTalk over NT the Mac home I run Services for Macintosh for a very few legacy Macs here... installed. The Ok, I don't have SFM set for routing. It's simply bound to the Ethernet adapter. In that mode, the NIC is in the "default zone". Ok. 7.0.1. ??? I don't see AppleTalk in the Chooser; I see AppleTalk in Control Panel. In Chooser, I see icons for each type of printer driver I'm using, and I also see the AppleShare icon. However, none of our legacy Macs are that old; System 7.5.5 is the oldest in use, OS 8.1 the newest. ISTR that AppleShare Client 3.6.4 is the oldest version of the client in use here. Maybe NT Services for Macintosh doesn't have the capability introduced in the AppleShare Fileserver IP 5.0 that permits clients to make connections over TCP/IP; and the earliest AppleShare Client that supports the TCP/IP connections is 3.6.4 (we had to make that the baseline while we were still running a Mac fileserver). If you're trying to access the NT Server across anything other than the LAN that the NT Server's NIC is connected to, you're out of luck. No bridges, routers, etc. Additionally, you have to create a directory somewhere, share it for access by Windows clients, then use NT File Mangler to create a Mac Volume from that shared directory before the macs can see them. But it sounds like you're having trouble before you get that far. Hope some of this helps... -dq