At 11:43 PM 22/01/2003 +0000, Peter Hicks wrote: It's sure to be autonegotiation - this is clearly the work of the devil (or some company that wants to make lots of money for their consultants). Is this "feature" more than 10 years old - if so, will it be appropriate to rant on about this here :-) I think I've spent more time cursing this feature than almost any other network abomination. The good? aspect is that you can really impress customers when consulting by fixing their real network problems in 10 minutes. It's even more impressive if they're running multiple protocols over a mis-configured link. TCP/IP appears to work fine, DECnet appears horrible - something to do with TCP/IP being pessimistic about the links it has to use, DECnet being a lot more hopefull. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"