My guess would be, she is still mourning the loss of her husband. The archive is all she has left of him. She may not understand it, but as long as it is in her garage, she still has something to hold onto. Death is a funny thing and makes people do equally funny things. She doesn't want to complete the transaction, because she isn't mentally ready to let the items go. But I also believe you are correct, eventually she will be ready, and if someone isn't standing at the door, she will just hire some local kid to haul it all to the trash. I think the best course of action is to discuss the matter with someone OTHER than Winnie, but who is going to be close enough all the time to keep a careful eye on the items. The Debbie person may be the best contact. Someone other than Winnie will not be in a mental state that keeps them from wanting to let the items go. So you will have a better chance of really pointing out the historical value of the items, and stress the importance that they not be thrown out. That person can then keep a careful passive eye on the items, and will know when the time is right to press for giving them to the classic computer community where they can be saved. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>