1 Feb
2016
1 Feb
'16
1:30 p.m.
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
KJ
On Sun, Jan
31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote:
Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a
very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are not
gentle on parcels.
1 Feb
1 Feb
1:43 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried <seefriek
at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but where
it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it wasn?t
until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that they realized
there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of the package
and they had no idea where it was.
TTFN - Guy
On Sun,
Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote:
Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a
very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are not
gentle on parcels.
2:14 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the side of a tape
library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the library.
The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck.
UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped it - until it was pointed out that
the hole was right through their shipping documents.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Sotomayor" <ggs at shiresoft.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:43:40 AM
Subject: Re: USPS: Shipping
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried <seefriek
at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but where
it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it wasn?t
until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that they realized
there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of the package
and they had no idea where it was.
TTFN - Guy
On Sun,
Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote:
Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a
very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are not
gentle on parcels.
2:20 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Norman Jaffe <turing
at shaw.ca> wrote:
I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the side of a tape
library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the library.
The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck.
UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped it - until it was pointed out that
the hole was right through their shipping documents.
Yea, they?re response when I was talking to them, was ?Well just have the shipper
send another one?. Yea, right. It?s hard to get them to appreciate that some of this
stuff *is no longer manufactured*. I guess the only other way is to put such a high
value on it (with insurance) that they sit up and take notice if it goes missing.
TTFN - Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Sotomayor" <ggs at shiresoft.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:43:40 AM
Subject: Re: USPS: Shipping
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried
<seefriek at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but where
it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it wasn?t
until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that they realized
there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of the package
and they had no idea where it was.
TTFN - Guy
On Sun,
Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote:
Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a
very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are not
gentle on parcels.
3:16 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but where
it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it wasn?t
until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that they realized
Useless Parcel Service - there's a reason the trucks are brown.
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens
Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org>
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org>
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Norman Jaffe
<turing at shaw.ca> wrote:
I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the
side of
a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the
library.
The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck.
UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped it - until it was
pointed
out that the hole was right through their shipping documents.
Yea, they?re response when I was talking to them, was ?Well just have the
shipper
send another one?. Yea, right. It?s hard to get them to appreciate that
some of this
stuff *is no longer manufactured*. I guess the only other way is to put
such a high
value on it (with insurance) that they sit up and take notice if it goes
missing.
TTFN - Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Sotomayor" <ggs at shiresoft.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:43:40 AM
Subject: Re: USPS: Shipping
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried <seefriek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <
henk.gooijen at
hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in
a
>>> very strong box. I've actually
had EPROMs show up cracked in half
>>
>> Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are
not
gentle on parcels.
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
there was a problem. There was not one ?physical?
scan of the package
and they had no idea where it was.
TTFN - Guy
11:14 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Norman Jaffe wrote:
I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big
hole punched in the
side of a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the
library.
The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck.
UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped it - until it was
pointed out that the hole was right through their shipping documents.
The very same thing happened to me with a washing machine sized box which
contained a computer rack. The hole was large enough where one of the
packages of mounting hardware/brackets got lost. The seller was
non-responsive and hadn't insured it and it took me ~3 months to get $100
out of UPS.
11:22 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried <seefriek
at gmail.com> wrote:
I recently bought a vacuum tube tester and whatever USPS carrier happened
to be on duty scanned it as delivered but it was nowhere to be found.
After calling the USPS and getting the branch manager involved, it
magically appeared the next day. Someone at the USPS had also marked out
the tracking barcode on the label.
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Tothwolf wrote:
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but
where it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it
wasn?t until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that
they realized there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of
the package and they had no idea where it was. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable. Spend the extra few dollars (or what your
currency is) and pack it in
very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are
not gentle on parcels. 
2 Feb
2 Feb
6:47 a.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
m?n 2016-02-01 klockan 22:22 -0600 skrev Tothwolf:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
HOW BAD is the relationship between the guys/gals on the floor at USPS
and management/congress ?
If people is sabotaging like this.
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried
<seefriek at gmail.com> wrote:
I recently bought a vacuum tube tester and whatever USPS carrier happened
to be on duty scanned it as delivered but it was nowhere to be found.
After calling the USPS and getting the branch manager involved, it
magically appeared the next day. Someone at the USPS had also marked out
the tracking barcode on the label. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Tothwolf wrote:
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but
where it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it
wasn?t until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that
they realized there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of
the package and they had no idea where it was. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in
> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are
not gentle on parcels.
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
12:40 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
I was once given a tour of a USPS facility and told to not make eye contact with the
workers, as this was considered a threatening move by management.
I don't know if it's gotten any better, but it was definitely a weird experience.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Skoglund (lokal anv?ndare)" <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:47:48 AM
Subject: Re: USPS: Shipping
m?n 2016-02-01 klockan 22:22 -0600 skrev Tothwolf:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
HOW BAD is the relationship between the guys/gals on the floor at USPS
and management/congress ?
If people is sabotaging like this.
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried
<seefriek at gmail.com> wrote:
I recently bought a vacuum tube tester and whatever USPS carrier happened
to be on duty scanned it as delivered but it was nowhere to be found.
After calling the USPS and getting the branch manager involved, it
magically appeared the next day. Someone at the USPS had also marked out
the tracking barcode on the label. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Tothwolf wrote:
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but
where it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it
wasn?t until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that
they realized there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of
the package and they had no idea where it was. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in
> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are
not gentle on parcels.
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable. 
1:13 p.m.
New subject: USPS: Shipping
On 2016-02-02 12:40 PM, Norman Jaffe wrote:
I was once given a tour of a USPS facility and told to
not make eye contact with the workers, as this was considered a threatening move by
management.
I don't know if it's gotten any better, but it was definitely a weird experience.
https://twitter.com/NizarKrayem/status/560443201173983234
--Toby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Skoglund (lokal anv?ndare)" <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:47:48 AM
Subject: Re: USPS: Shipping
m?n 2016-02-01 klockan 22:22 -0600 skrev Tothwolf:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
HOW BAD is the relationship between the guys/gals on the floor at USPS
and management/congress ?
If people is sabotaging like this.
On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried
<seefriek at gmail.com> wrote:
I recently bought a vacuum tube tester and whatever USPS carrier happened
to be on duty scanned it as delivered but it was nowhere to be found.
After calling the USPS and getting the branch manager involved, it
magically appeared the next day. Someone at the USPS had also marked out
the tracking barcode on the label. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Tothwolf wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>
>> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in
>> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
>
> Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are
> not gentle on parcels.
I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6
months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or
shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web
site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before
magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable.
I?ve had failures with *all* of the major shippers.
UPS tracking is a *joke*. It tells you not where the package is but
where it?s supposed to be. I was tracking an IBM 3278 terminal and it
wasn?t until the tracking said it was ?on the truck for delivery? that
they realized there was a problem. There was not one ?physical? scan of
the package and they had no idea where it was.
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