At 09:43 PM 3/10/99 -0800, Sellam Ismail wrote: The folks dressing the sets of movies scrounge almost as hard as computer collectors. If they can sweet-talk some hardware maker into lending machines for scenes, they'll do it. It's product placement. Don't forget, many of the people working on movies are effectively sub-contractors, and if they can do it for less money, they're making money. And if they can get something that will "fall off the truck" or re-sold when the sets are demolished, all the better: I remember a particularly egregious example of a tech for the movie "Twins" who was systematically begging software makers for actual product (not just boxes, but disks, he insisted) to clutter some laboratory scenes. What a scam! - John