8 Apr
2000
8 Apr
'00
10:43 p.m.
I have to
agree with Pete on this one. I am an American and his
definitions are correct. Slew also used as a term of flight orientation
in Aircraft is all I can add.
Interesting! Will you provide a sample for illustration? 
9 Apr
9 Apr
6:12 p.m.
I have to agree with Pete on this one. I am an
American and his
definitions are correct. Slew also used as a term of flight orientation
in Aircraft is all I can add.
Interesting! Will you provide a sample for illustration? 
6:41 p.m.
I think we missed the nautical definition as well; to turn any
cyllindrical or conical piece of timber around it's axis without removing
it. Ex: "Slew the mast with the block up."
And don't forget that fine British term "slewed" - I think in American
that directly translates to "shit-faced."
Cheers,
Aaron
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Mike Ford wrote:
I'd be interested. I know pitch, roll and yaw. Though the slew rate for
C150 ailerons is a slow 6 degrees/sec. ;)
I don't remember slew, but a slip is when you turn the plane slightly
sideways to the path of motion, often to slow it down or account for
crosswinds in a landing. Don't forget to point it straight before touchdown
though, or it gets "interesting".
I have to
agree with Pete on this one. I am an American and his
definitions are correct. Slew also used as a term of flight orientation
in Aircraft is all I can add.
Interesting! Will you provide a sample for illustration?
10 Apr
10 Apr
4:06 a.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
Few things jazz me more than finding an upgrade processor in an old hulk,
but some of these cpus are not clear to me what they are. By the 486 era
things make sense, and I have Kingston 133, Evergreen, and other fast 486
upgrades, but could someone explain a bit what it is I should be looking
for as a 386 upgrade?
BTW in the massive "weird" catagory that dominates my storage I have about
a dozen 286 upgrades for earlier cpus. Yow, spank that old system with the
power of a 10 mhz 286. ;) Maybe I will do a ebay package with some of the
old internal modems.
10:16 a.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
The upgrades for the '386 types were typically 486DLC thingies that claimed
to be a '486 but looked like and fit in the place of a '386. They also had
no internal math processor.
The '286's weren't so easily upgraded, but there were 20 and 25 MHz CMOS
(Harris) versions that were pretty popular.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:06 AM
Subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
Few things jazz me more than finding an upgrade
processor in an old hulk,
but some of these cpus are not clear to me what they are. By the 486 era
things make sense, and I have Kingston 133, Evergreen, and other fast 486
upgrades, but could someone explain a bit what it is I should be looking
for as a 386 upgrade?
BTW in the massive "weird" catagory that dominates my storage I have about
a dozen 286 upgrades for earlier cpus. Yow, spank that old system with the
power of a 10 mhz 286. ;) Maybe I will do a ebay package with some of the
old internal modems.
1:05 p.m.
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3:58 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
chip. They normally contained an 80386SX (16 bit data
bus) or sometimes a
486SLC-type thing (that could be convinced to use a 16 bit data bus
without too much work) and a couple of PLDs to combine bus control
My favorite is the intel Inboard series. I have one for the XT (leading
edge model D) and it's a 386sx/16 with 1mb ram. runs nice. It's problem
is that most stuff youd want a 386 for needs 4-8mb as minima and the
matching memory card is scarce. Still as a dos engine it's fast and
someday I have to try minix though the memory is low.
Allison
4:29 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
I never got too excited about the '386 adapters to a '286 system, because
the 386DX was a mite slower than a '286 running from the same clock. What's
more, when you used a '386 back then the first thing that the OS did was
tell it "you're a '286 now" and proceed. The '286 did this a little
better.
By the time there was a '386 that actually outran the '286, ther was a '486
that could outrun 'em both.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: 386 upgrade cpus?
>
> The upgrades for the '386 types were typically 486DLC thingies that
claimed
> to be a '486 but looked like and fit in the
place of a '386. They also
had
no internal
math processor.
The '286's weren't so easily upgraded, but there were 20 and 25 MHz CMOS
(Harris) versions that were pretty popular.
There were daughterboards that fitted in place of the 80286 processor
chip. They normally contained an 80386SX (16 bit data bus) or sometimes a
486SLC-type thing (that could be convinced to use a 16 bit data bus
without too much work) and a couple of PLDs to combine bus control
signals, etc. Some of them even had a floating point chip on the board.
They work. I'm using one right now (how else do you run linux on a PC/AT
:-)). But they're not exactly fast...
-tony
2:19 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
From: "Richard Erlacher"
<edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: 386 upgrade cpus?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:29:28 -0600
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
I never got too excited about the '386 adapters to
a '286 system, because
the 386DX was a mite slower than a '286 running from the same clock. What's
more, when you used a '386 back then the first thing that the OS did was
tell it "you're a '286 now" and proceed. The '286 did this a
little better.
By the time there was a '386 that actually outran the '286, ther was a '486
that could outrun 'em both.
Oh there were few IBM, Kingston and few other made straight 486dx or
sx upgrade daughterboards that fits the 386dx socket.
I have the "486/Now!" works straight out of box but performance well
no better than a 386dx 40 but the FPU is powerful typical to '486.
Oh, there's RapidCad by intel for 386dx boards. I'm surprised
many didn't hear or talk about this set.
I'm impressed most by the true IBM 486SLC2 and SLC3.
Wizard
5:55 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
I never got too excited about the '386 adapters to
a '286 system, because
the 386DX was a mite slower than a '286 running from the same clock. What's
more, when you used a '386 back then the first thing that the OS did was
tell it "you're a '286 now" and proceed. The '286 did this a little
better.
By the time there was a '386 that actually outran the '286, ther was a '486
that could outrun 'em both.
Thats good to know, mostly I think what I would like to find are the 486
upgrades to 386 based machines. Many of my "cute" computers are 386 based,
and the added speed of a 486 might be nice in some situations.
8:33 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: 386 upgrade cpus?
The upgrades for the '386 types were typically
486DLC thingies that
claimed
to be a '486 but looked like and fit in the place
of a '386. They
also had
no internal math processor.
The '286's weren't so easily upgraded, but there were 20 and 25 MHz
CMOS
(Harris) versions that were pretty popular.
I have an IBM PS2 Model 30 with a Hypertec 386 Accelerator in it. It's a
card with a surface mounted 386SX-16 and it has a mating adapter that
fits into the 286 CPU Slot. Works pretty well.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Mark's College
Port Pirie,
South Australia
geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au
ICQ: 1970476
1:59 p.m.
New subject: 386 upgrade cpus?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
Few things jazz me more than finding an
upgrade
processor in an old hulk,
but some of these cpus are not clear to me
what
they are. By the 486 era
things make sense, and I have Kingston 133,
Evergreen, and other fast 486
upgrades, but could someone explain a bit
what
it is I should be looking
for as a 386 upgrade?
The only 386 upgrades I know of are know by
the ID
-486 SLC propably a 386 SX replacement
-486 DLC a 386 DX (I dunno for sure)
They had extra cache and could run up to 40
or 50 Mhz with some internal
clock multiplication. Numerical coprocessors
were of the 387 type (Fastmath).
Souped up 386's so to speak
I've seen both on CPU-boards that looked very
much like
their 386SX /DX progenitors. Same types of
PLL oscilators, placement of
SIMMS (30pins) and slots and identical glue
chips
It has been know tha not all software could
be run reliably on them.
8:04 a.m.
New subject: Apple Workgroup Server 95
My friend Shane will be subscribing to the group when he gets home but
please CC any replies to:
SOWENBY(a)mindspring.com
He got an Apple Mac Workgroup Server 95 from Computer Parts Barn a couple
of weeks ago. He would like to reinstall the OS from scratch but is
having trouble. He goes through partitioning and it doesn't really change
the contents of the drive at all.
48mb ram
id 0 is a 250mb scsi
id1 is a 1.2g scsi
cd150 cdrom (external)
MacOS v 7.1
Apple unix version A/UX 3.1
Thanks guys and gals
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