I won't disagree with you. But Richard spouts out as an expert in all things computer... if he has half the brains, and computer smarts he trys to claim... then he should have known far more about the Mac then he appears to if he has "5+ years of daily use". I have friends with the IQ of a potato, who have less than 5+ years of non daily use of a Mac, and know far more than Richard appears to know. I just find it hard to swallow... taken in context with everything else Richard says. I just went over as many of Richards emails as I still have on this machine, and I found that maybe it isn't so much that Richard is lying, so much as he is twisting the truth. Like for instance, he said he bought the AppleVision monitor for $3.95 when he got it ("It's only a small risk at $3.95."), but then just now said he paid $2.95 ("including the Applevision monitor for $2.95"). Sure, he isn't lying, he just forgot the price by a $1 since last week... acceptable, understandable, not a problem. Except that he does that thru almost EVERYTHING he writes (he paid ~$10 for two performa's including tax... but then later the reduced by a buck monitor was lumped into that same approx $10 price, significantly reducing the price he is implying he paid... again, it is a rounding issue, it isn't a lie... it is just implying something that is not quite true.) He also tries to spout off as an expert in any topic he is discussing, but when you go back and look at the facts, he admits that he has no idea what he is talking about (he claims Mac's have a 250% price premium... but he hasn't looked at pricing in over 15 years... except he checked ebay and it says prices are 2.5:1). So what he REALLY said is... he has NO idea what current prices are, but he is going to pretend he knows, and he is going to hold Apple responsible for the prices that he will assume to be true, and he will base as his only source of proof, the used prices he finds on eBay, and he will ignore the historically higher resale value of the Mac over the generic PC. So I appologize, Richard isn't lying, he is simply not telling the whole truth, and is implying far more than he should, and attempts to make people believe he is an expert on topics by speaking of things as if they are fact, when in reality he has no real knowledge of the facts, but just assumes anything he thinks must be correct, and treats it as such. I really wish Apple would cut the crap with that. They freaking introduce contextual menus with OS 8, but STILL refuse to release a two button mouse. But then, maybe they are not bundling a multi-button mouse in order to help 3rd party companies sell them... who knows. see... that is just what I am talking about. He will claim he hasn't seriously touched them in years, implying that he never uses them, and knows little about them. Then later, when it suits his statements, he will claim that he has 5+ years of daily useage of them. It may be that neither is false. Maybe 10 years ago, he stopped using the Mac after having done 5+ years working with them. That would let him have 5 years of useage under his belt AND not have touched them in years. Or maybe, like you say, he means serious in the strictest of senses, and he hasn't used the Mac for "hard core" work in years, but uses them for games every day. With the way he twists everything to fit what he wants at a given moment, you just can't tell. I do know one thing... if I ever need a someone to argue a case for me... I think I want Richard on my side... he has the best doublespeak I have ever seen (read?). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>