The only problem is that with any kind of auction the money will take the sole role for decision. This is a build in feature, since not only the seller reserves the right to sell only for the highest possible price, also the bidder gets the sole right to buy if his bid is the highest. In fact, your idea isn't bad at all, because when it is realy about to be an acution, eBay would serve as a management system (offers haggle the same option for a closed auction ?) to give several iterations and let everyone see whats the personal value in there. Servus Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK