Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:08:21 +0100 (BST)
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: IBM 3101 terminals
If I had space, I'd be tempted to offer one a
home. But I haven't :-(
You mean I'm not the olnly classiccmp member to have a space problem...
Seriously, other than moving (or collecting pocket calculators), is there
a cure to having more computers than floorspace for them?
Get rid of your couch and bed. They're taking up usefull space. Lofts
can also be suspended from the ceiling. : ^ ))
Couch : Have done...
Bed : Oh come on. I need a soft surface to put CRT's down on to avoid
scratching the faceplate...
And you can't easily suspend 50kg+ machines from the ceiling. They tend
to fall down.. That's quite apart from the fact that many of the piles
that start at the floor already touch the ceiling.
DE9 (PC
serial port, Atari joystick, etc)
DA15 (Ethernet AUI, PC games port, etc) -- The one we're talking about
DB25 (Standard RS232, PC printer port, etc)
DC37 (PC external disk port, Canon CX engine interface, etc)
DD50 (Sun SCSI port, etc)
The high-density ones are :
DE15 (PC VGA monitor)
DA?? (Never seen it)
DB44 (Never seen it used, but it's in the catalogues)
DC62 (PC expansion cabinet, etc)
-tony
Sorry to differ from my more knowledgeable co-respondents,
but I had an XT clone which had a DB15 RS2 serial port.
There certainly were machines that used a 15 pin connector for the serial
port. But...
a) That connector is a DA15, not a DB15. A DB15 would be the physical
size of a normal 25 pin connector, but with only 15 pins. It doesn't
exist AFAIK.
b) Doesn't one of the RS232-a-like standards (maybe RS232, maybe EIA232,
maybe V24, maybe...) actually specify a 25 pin connector?
I searched in vain to find an adaptor for an
external modem
and finally installed an internal one. 2 rows in a D shell.
Adaptor == DA15 connector, DB25 connector, piece of wire, solder...
ciao larry
-tony
I take it youve already divested yourself of wife, kids ,and cats
hmmm ? ; ^ ))
I should have examined your designations more closely. I had always
thought that the DB-n ,designated shell-type and called the Atari,
C64, etc. connectors DB-9 's and the 25 pin ones db-25 s' .
Obviously the second letter is a further qualifier. I'l have to look
it up. Live and learn. IIRC even the manual that came with this
Best MARK4 xt clone referred to it as a db-15 .
ciao larry
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