5 May
1997
5 May
'97
11:42 a.m.
Hi all,
Due to the shocking absence of a computer collecting newsgroup
(alt.folklore.computers is used a bit, but doesn't really apply), I'm
submitting an RFD for rec.collecting.computers.classic. If anyone would
like to be listed as a co-proponent, let me know. This may entail some
work in assisting/monitoring the RFD process.
The RFD will be cross-posted to classiccmp when complete.
thanks
Kai
5 May
5 May
3:20 p.m.
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
Hi all,
Due to the shocking absence of a computer collecting newsgroup
(alt.folklore.computers is used a bit, but doesn't really apply), I'm
submitting an RFD for rec.collecting.computers.classic. If anyone would
like to be listed as a co-proponent, let me know. This may entail some
work in assisting/monitoring the RFD process.
The RFD will be cross-posted to classiccmp when complete.
thanks
Kai
Kai, I don't really mean to slow you down here but aren't there
enough newsproups? cpm has one apple has one macintosh has one.
I mean that's why I joined the mailing list! I really don't want
another newsgroup to get spammed from, the obtuse oldies we can
cover here would never warrent a group but certainly could fill
an archive or a FAQ in this group.
As machines get more rare, their sales value goes up. BUT WE DON'T
WANT TO SELL! I am afraid we will be swamped with offers of CASH
(such a hard thing to say NO to 8-) by clueless yuppie-puppies
who have NO IDEA how to keep the machines running and won't want
to so LOOK clueless and will never visit again after getting their
prize. Then after the *fad* dies down, they will just chuck them
in the trash and they will be gone forever.
That and all the Spam that will fly thru just makes me say NO!
Leave it in a mailing list. Advertise the list - but please - no
more newsgroups.
Bill! How many people on the list now? They maybe only represent
10% of the people who love these clunkers but at least we are all
family!
BC
5:10 p.m.
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4:52 p.m.
Well how about a "Computer Journal" all our own?
Maybe they could have a focus on one specific machine per month (or
whatever) with maybe some tech specs, basic "one-liners", and the sort for
those of us who don't have manuals/want to "learn" more, etc. Or maybe
some "getting started" info. You'd be really surprised how some people
take forever figuring out how to do the "simple things." (take for
example, the number of posts one sees in comp.sys.cbm about how to get a
directory on a C64) Each of us has his/her strongpoints. One person
might be an apple person or maybe a commie guy, etc. I mean I have an old
TRS-80 Model 1 that I really don't know what to do with! Why? I
picked it out of the trash and consequently, have no manuals!
Just an idea... and it really wouldn't take that much effort!
Les
7:04 p.m.
On Tue, 6 May 1997, Mr. Self Destruct wrote:
Well how about a "Computer Journal" all our
own?
Maybe they could have a focus on one specific machine per month (or
whatever) with maybe some tech specs, basic "one-liners", and the sort for
those of us who don't have manuals/want to "learn" more, etc. Or maybe
some "getting started" info. You'd be really surprised how some people
take forever figuring out how to do the "simple things." (take for
example, the number of posts one sees in comp.sys.cbm about how to get a
directory on a C64) Each of us has his/her strongpoints. One person
might be an apple person or maybe a commie guy, etc. I mean I have an old
TRS-80 Model 1 that I really don't know what to do with! Why? I
picked it out of the trash and consequently, have no manuals!
Actually, this is a great idea and is something I have been
contemplating. I want to start a classic collector journal and have it
coincide with the C4 show but I don't think I will have time for it. I'm
hoping that maybe by the end of the year I can get something going. But
I would need support from others, especially to write articles. Perhaps
we can make it a group effort?
Sam
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6 May
6 May
3:42 a.m.
On Tue, 6 May 1997, Mr. Self Destruct wrote:
Well how about a "Computer Journal" all our own?
Or better yet, why not just start writing FOR te Computer Journal!
Just an idea... and it really wouldn't take that
much effort!
Even less if you don't have to do the publishing! (I've been there)
-jim
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5 May
5 May
6:54 p.m.
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Brett wrote:
Keeping it to ourselves is counter productive. The point is to share the
knowledge to get more people interested to preserve more computers. The
point is we do this because we have passion for the systems. Every hobby
is going to be prostituted some time or another. As long as your passion
remains, its all good.
Sam
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That and all the Spam that will fly thru just makes me
say NO!
Leave it in a mailing list. Advertise the list - but please - no
more newsgroups.
I almost agree with you but I would like to see a newsgroup. It will
just allow us to reach a broader group. I think Bill Whitson did a good
job of putting this discussion group together, with his simple yet
effective qualification process (who are you and why should you be
allowed to be in this discussion group). I think thus far we have had
some really good discussions on some good stuff. The same can't be said
about a newsgroup because off-topic messages and superfluous cross-posting
of drivel are inevitable.
But...
Bill! How many
people on the list now? They maybe only represent
10% of the people who love these
clunkers but at least we are all
family! 
6 May
6 May
9:52 a.m.
Keeping it to ourselves is counter productive. The
point is to share the
knowledge to get more people interested to preserve more computers. The
point is we do this because we have passion for the systems. Every hobby
is going to be prostituted some time or another. As long as your passion
remains, its all good.
Let me clarify, just in case. Anyone with interest can join this list.
If you guys wish to spread the word or post about it in appropriate
places be my guest.
I don't stand one way or the other on the newsgroup idea but I think
it's agood idea to take a look at groups like comp.sys.ti where the
bulk of the info comes from the mailing list reposts and almost
everything else is spam. That is the reason why I decided to go with a
mailing list rather than a newsgroup. It seems silly to argue about the
group if the process has already been started - if it gets created it will
either get used or not. If it passes I'll be one of the people reading
it as I'm sure most of you will.
Bill
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Bill Whitson - Classic Computers ListOp
bill(a)booster.u.washinton.edu or bcw(a)u.washington.edu
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bcw
9:43 a.m.
Bill! How many people on the list now? They maybe only
represent
10% of the people who love these clunkers but at least we are all
family!
I think it's still just over 200. Subscribership hasn't increased
for a while. I haven't spammed the newsgroups in a while either
though. Maybe it's time to fill my inbox with flames again ;).
Bill
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Bill Whitson - Classic Computers ListOp
bill(a)booster.u.washinton.edu or bcw(a)u.washington.edu
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bcw
5 May
5 May
6:47 p.m.
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
Hi all,
Due to the shocking absence of a computer collecting newsgroup
(alt.folklore.computers is used a bit, but doesn't really apply), I'm
submitting an RFD for rec.collecting.computers.classic. If anyone would
like to be listed as a co-proponent, let me know. This may entail some
work in assisting/monitoring the RFD process.
The RFD will be cross-posted to classiccmp when complete.
Kount me in Kai. I'll do whatever I can to help.
Sam
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