Please don't do this - I thought the whole point of bitsavers was to preserve original documentation. If the original doesn't have watermarks, the preserved one shouldn't either. If you want to put "your mark" on the PDFs, then how about an extra page at the beginning. This does not alter the original document, and you can provide as much information as you wish. Granted such pages can be removed, but so can watermarks - if someone is intent on distributing your scan without giving credit, they will find a way. But it's likely that people who just slurp the archive onto a DVD will leave the PDFs "as is". I'm glad to hear you say that. I know this discussion has come up before. Having spend many years on a dial-up connection, I can tell you that for people large files are impossible (or at least very difficult) to obtain directly. I don't consider paying $25 for a DVD of files that I want to be any different than paying for my internet connection which lets me download them - It's just a transfer medium and a service. I also find this offensive. I spend a fair bit of time scanning and otherwise preserving material - I do not expect credit or acknowlegement, but I would find it annoying to have someone else presenting the material with such statements. But there may be some truth to his statements - perhaps he did work at DEC, and "putting together a large collection of manuals" doesn't mean that he collected them while he worked there, or that they are in paper form ... Yeah Right! At least the material is being further distributed on a semi- permanent medium, which will increase it's chances for survival... Does this bother you? - It seems to me to be a fairly legimite use of the material (Face it - how many people who don't have an AM 8085 ICE would have a use for that manual). I've just brought in a scope which I am planning to pass on to a friend, so I grabbed the manual from BANA (68Megs of it - yes I do have a HS connection now) and put it on a CD for him - do you consider this wrong? If he did not state that the manual was on CD, then thats another thing - misrepresentation, as I would expect "with manual" to mean the original physical manual - but when I see something advertised with "manual on CD" or "manual in PDF", I assume it's been taken from the net or purchased the trouble of finding it myself. -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html