10 Mar
2002
10 Mar
'02
3:06 a.m.
On March 10, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Not really. "I Dream of Genie" was a
popular show way back when. I
used to watch it in reruns in the afternoon when I was a kid in the
80's.
Me too. Mmmm, Barbara Eden. She runs around in that little skimpy
outfit calling that guy "Master"...what do YOU think is going on
there? ;)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
10 Mar
10 Mar
4 a.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
On March 10, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Nothing yet ... this was from the 60's. :)
The B205 was a popular movie/TV computer and here is picture of
one in the Bat Cave and other places.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/onscreen.html
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www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Not really. "I Dream of Genie" was a
popular show way back when. I
used to watch it in reruns in the afternoon when I was a kid in the
80's.
Me too. Mmmm, Barbara Eden. She runs around in that little skimpy
outfit calling that guy "Master"...what do YOU think is going on
there? ;) 
5:34 a.m.
Exactly the 60's!! The 60's aren't exactly known for being wholesome,
that was the 50's.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Ben Franchuk wrote:
Nothing yet ... this was from the 60's. :)
The B205 was a popular movie/TV computer and here is picture of
one in the Bat Cave and other places.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/onscreen.html
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
6:44 a.m.
New subject: 990
Yesterday, we visited downtown Boston, braving the confusion and
annoyance of the Big Dig, and rescued a, actually 2, Texas Instruments
990 computers. It is believed to be one of the last two still running in
New England.
With the spare boards we have, it is likely the second 990 can also be coaxed
back to life as well.
Later this week, we hope to rescue a cache of Hewlett-Packardss.
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
8:47 a.m.
New subject: 990
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
Yesterday, we visited downtown Boston, braving the
confusion and
annoyance of the Big Dig, and rescued a, actually 2, Texas Instruments
990 computers. It is believed to be one of the last two still running in
New England.
With the spare boards we have, it is likely the second 990 can also be coaxed
back to life as well.
Later this week, we hope to rescue a cache of Hewlett-Packardss.
Great work, Merle! What model(s)?
jbdigriz
9:58 a.m.
New subject: 990
I think they are both variations of the 990/12. One may be a model 8. I
think one is a 13 slot chassis, the other a 17.
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, James B. DiGriz wrote:
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
Yesterday, we visited downtown Boston, braving
the confusion and
annoyance of the Big Dig, and rescued a, actually 2, Texas Instruments
990 computers. It is believed to be one of the last two still running in
New England.
With the spare boards we have, it is likely the second 990 can also be coaxed
back to life as well.
Later this week, we hope to rescue a cache of Hewlett-Packardss.
Great work, Merle! What model(s)?
jbdigriz
1:28 p.m.
New subject: 990
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I think they are both variations of the 990/12. One
may be a model 8. I
think one is a 13 slot chassis, the other a 17.
I have a /10 in a 13 slot chassis. ~512K installed, several more 192 and
256K MEM A boards, and controllers for DS10 and DS50 drives, 911 VDT's
(have 3 terminals), COMM, EIA, CI402, Some are spares, plus I have 202
modems, assorted extra cables, etc, so if you run across anything you
need but don't have, give me a holler. I may have it.
The drives and cartridges need a lot of work before I even think about
trying to spin them up. Unfortunately they haven't been stored in the
best of conditions. I'm not set up to do that myself, yet, and the only
man I know hereabouts with the know-how and tools to clean, refurbish,
test and align old SMD drives and disk packs isn't ready to get into
restoring old gear just yet.
In the meantime, I'm looking at the boot ROM source from Kossow's site
for ways to hack in from a PC or maybe the 990/1 I have. Need to find an
FD800/1000 or other SA800 series floppy subsytem for the latter, though.
And software. Or I might dump the boot ROM on it and write/port some, at
least a monitor/assembler/linker/loader. I'm going to be doing some
99xx(x) assembly here anyway.
By all means please keep us posted on the progress. I'd be interested in
knowing what software you got with the 990's, too.
Thanks,
jbdigriz
11 Mar
11 Mar
12:57 a.m.
New subject: 990
I saw one box of software that supposedly allowed interconnections with
ordinary PC's. I also saw some materials that suggested there was a SCSI
bus on at least one machine. One was running, the ogher considered a
parts source. there was some sort of SMD type drive, but it had had a
head crash and wasn't in use.
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, James B. DiGriz wrote:
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
I think they are both variations of the 990/12.
One may be a model 8. I
think one is a 13 slot chassis, the other a 17.
I have a /10 in a 13 slot chassis. ~512K installed, several more 192 and
256K MEM A boards, and controllers for DS10 and DS50 drives, 911 VDT's
(have 3 terminals), COMM, EIA, CI402, Some are spares, plus I have 202
modems, assorted extra cables, etc, so if you run across anything you
need but don't have, give me a holler. I may have it.
The drives and cartridges need a lot of work before I even think about
trying to spin them up. Unfortunately they haven't been stored in the
best of conditions. I'm not set up to do that myself, yet, and the only
man I know hereabouts with the know-how and tools to clean, refurbish,
test and align old SMD drives and disk packs isn't ready to get into
restoring old gear just yet.
In the meantime, I'm looking at the boot ROM source from Kossow's site
for ways to hack in from a PC or maybe the 990/1 I have. Need to find an
FD800/1000 or other SA800 series floppy subsytem for the latter, though.
And software. Or I might dump the boot ROM on it and write/port some, at
least a monitor/assembler/linker/loader. I'm going to be doing some
99xx(x) assembly here anyway.
By all means please keep us posted on the progress. I'd be interested in
knowing what software you got with the 990's, too.
Thanks,
jbdigriz
2:31 a.m.
New subject: 990
I saw one box of software that supposedly allowed
interconnections with
ordinary PC's. I also saw some materials that suggested there was a SCSI
bus on at least one machine. One was running, the ogher considered a
parts source. there was some sort of SMD type drive, but it had had a
head crash and wasn't in use.
I used to work on a 990. Isn't the PC software a TI914
emulator with file transfer capabilities?
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9:53 a.m.
New subject: 990
I am not sure, but I believe it is. We were give 911 and 924 terminals.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
I saw one box
of software that supposedly allowed interconnections with
ordinary PC's. I also saw some materials that suggested there was a SCSI
bus on at least one machine. One was running, the ogher considered a
parts source. there was some sort of SMD type drive, but it had had a
head crash and wasn't in use.
I used to work on a 990. Isn't the PC software a TI914
emulator with file transfer capabilities?
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
10:18 a.m.
New subject: 990
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I am not sure, but I believe it is. We were give 911
and 924 terminals.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
It may be EM924, then, referenced in many termcap files. I've been
looking for a copy for several years with no luck.
jbdigriz
I saw one
box of software that supposedly allowed interconnections with
ordinary PC's. I also saw some materials that suggested there was a SCSI
bus on at least one machine. One was running, the ogher considered a
parts source. there was some sort of SMD type drive, but it had had a
head crash and wasn't in use.
I used to work on a 990. Isn't the PC software a TI914
emulator with file transfer capabilities?
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
3:47 a.m.
New subject: 990
Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I saw one box of software that supposedly allowed
interconnections with
ordinary PC's. I also saw some materials that suggested there was a SCSI
bus on at least one machine. One was running, the ogher considered a
parts source. there was some sort of SMD type drive, but it had had a
head crash and wasn't in use.
Probably a Western Automation SCSI subsystem; it seems to have been the
most common or only one available.
I'd be interested in finding out more about that software. There is a
DNIO suite available for the TI S1505 I have, but I think it requires
ethernet, which I don't have for the 990, and a still very expensive
license and dongle update on the Unix box. (The S1505 uses a hardware
encoded key on a plug-in slot on the motherboard. )
In the meantime, I think I'm just going to break down and punch in my
own boot loader from the front panel. :-) Between the docs I have, and
what Kossow has online, I have enough to work with now. Still, like I
said, please keep us posted, and let me know if I can be of any help.
Thanks,
jbdigriz
10 Mar
10 Mar
7:35 a.m.
Its all a matter of perspective. Its usually the decade that you spent your
innocent childhood. The 50's weren't that wholesome either. No decade was.
Its all in how its shoved in our face by the media/hollywood.
Brian.
On Sunday 10 March 2002 02:34 pm, you wrote:
Exactly the 60's!! The 60's aren't
exactly known for being wholesome,
that was the 50's.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Ben Franchuk wrote:
> Nothing yet ... this was from the 60's. :)
> The B205 was a popular movie/TV computer and here is picture of
> one in the Bat Cave and other places.
> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/onscreen.html
>
> --
> Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
> www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
1:05 p.m.
I'm not that old :-)
Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally
portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they
were. It was probably backlash from WW2.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Brian Roth wrote:
Its all a matter of perspective. Its usually the decade that you spent your
innocent childhood. The 50's weren't that wholesome either. No decade was.
Its all in how its shoved in our face by the media/hollywood.
Brian.
6:48 p.m.
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
I'm not that old :-)
Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally
portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they
were. It was probably backlash from WW2.
As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large
population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things
were better in my day".
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11 Mar
11 Mar
4:06 a.m.
I'm not taking about curmudgeons, I'm talking about the generally
accepted view by most everyone, including people that weren't around
then.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Sellam Ismail wrote:
As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large
population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things
were better in my day".
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12 Mar
12 Mar
3:48 a.m.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
I'm not taking about curmudgeons, I'm talking
about the generally
accepted view by most everyone, including people that weren't around
then.
The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Peace... Sridhar
7:51 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
Well, in one regard anyway. They are now out of the closet and poisened
the word `gay' forever!
- don
The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual
deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Is it different now?
8:26 a.m.
Don Maslin wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
I really don't care about the sex life of XXX. That is a private matter.
I thought in the 1950's it was more COMMIE hunters and more race hatred
than
sex.
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www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
Well, in one regard anyway. They are now out of the closet and poisened
the word `gay' forever!
- don The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual
deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Is it different now?
8:44 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Ben Franchuk wrote:
Don Maslin wrote:
Nor do I. My `carp' is about despoiling the language!
- don
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
I really don't care about the sex life of XXX. That is a private matter.
I thought in the 1950's it was more COMMIE hunters and more race hatred
than sex.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
Well, in one regard anyway. They are now out of the closet and poisened
the word `gay' forever!
- don The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual
deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Is it different now? 
13 Mar
13 Mar
9:15 a.m.
Well if the deviant sexual behavior of a person in an authoritive position also
includes S/M or something like pedophilia, It would be well to be very
concerned. At the time, the threat of exposure of sexual deviance, would
make them vulnerable to blackmail as well.
Lawrence
Don Maslin wrote:
Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net
Love of the Goddess makes the poet go mad
he goes to his death and in death is made wise.
Robert Graves
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
I really don't care about the sex life of XXX. That is a private matter.
I thought in the 1950's it was more COMMIE hunters and more race hatred
than
sex.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
Well, in one regard anyway. They are now out of the closet and poisened
the word `gay' forever!
- don The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual
deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Is it different now? 
10:27 a.m.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
Well if the deviant sexual behavior of a person in an
authoritive position also
includes S/M or something like pedophilia, It would be well to be very
concerned. At the time, the threat of exposure of sexual deviance, would
make them vulnerable to blackmail as well.
Some of our leaders make sexual deviancy look bad.
I don't have problems with somebody being a transvestite. That's up to
them. But JEdgar was REALLY creepy.
2:50 p.m.
Edgar was mild compared to Roy Cohn. Can't point you to a site but there
must be sources. And when it creeps into public policy creepy becomes a
horror story for some.
Lawrence
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com
Well if the deviant sexual behavior of a person
in an authoritive position
also
includes S/M or something like pedophilia, It would be well to be very
concerned. At the time, the threat of exposure of sexual deviance, would make
them vulnerable to blackmail as well.
Some of our leaders make sexual deviancy look bad.
I don't have problems with somebody being a transvestite. That's up to
them. But JEdgar was REALLY creepy.
5:09 a.m.
Care to elaborate?
Chad
Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
I'm not taking about curmudgeons, I'm
talking about the generally
accepted view by most everyone, including people that weren't around
then.
The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Peace... Sridhar 
8:23 a.m.
J. Edgar Hoover.
g.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Care to elaborate?
Chad
Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
I'm not taking about curmudgeons, I'm
talking about the generally
accepted view by most everyone, including people that weren't around
then.
The 50's was the time of the closeted sexual deviant. Closeted sexual
deviants ran this country.
Peace... Sridhar
13 Mar
13 Mar
9:15 a.m.
How about Roy(?) Cohn, the Senior attorney for HUAC, whose staff included
John and Bobby Kennedy.
Lawrence
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net
Love of the Goddess makes the poet go mad
he goes to his death and in death is made wise.
Robert Graves
Care to elaborate?
I got three words for you. J. Edgar Hoover
Peace... Sridhar
11 Mar
11 Mar
5:15 a.m.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
As long as people continue to age, there will always
result a large
population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things
were better in my day".
So,...
you're saying that we're the only ones who can perceive that things are
worse than they once were?
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10 Mar
10 Mar
9:54 p.m.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
Either that or the Curmudgeonly Gene kicks in after a certain age (perhaps
60).
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As long as people continue to age, there will
always result a large
population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things
were better in my day".
So,...
you're saying that we're the only ones who can perceive that things are
worse than they once were?
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