At the risk of getting incinerated, I would like to put in my two bits on the great MS debate. You fellows tend to resemble a lot of Grand Prix drivers running down Fords and Chevvies. What it comes right down to is that there are a whole bunch of people who are doing useful things with computers who would not be if they had to depend on the equipment and software that was available before PC's, Mac's, MS-Dos and Windows. I saw the same thing with the introduction of self threading 16mm projectors about twenty five years ago. The National Film Board of Canada banned them because they chewed up film, but they made it possible for thousands of teachers to use film in their classes. Someday possibly we can run our modern computers with an operating system that comes on one single sided floppy, but until then lets appreciate what we have. Cheers Charlie Fox